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Terence
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14 Sep 2018 16:07 |
Hi,all. Looking for Henry,c.1841,Ireland and wife Bridget,c.1842,Ireland.
They appear in 1871 Census at Liverton,Yorks.with their 3 daughters. I can't seem to find them again until 1901 at Middlesbrough. I looked at a tree on Ancestry and it appeared to say they were in USA at that time.Like a few Ancestry trees there were blatent mistakes.E.G.Registered USA,1880 and then Arrived 1887.Obviously something not right. All help greatly appreciated, Terry L.
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2018 16:59 |
He was in America in 1880. This is from Findmypast:-
First name(s) Henry Last name Cosgrove Sex Male Age 38 Birth year 1842 Birth date 1842 Birth place Ireland Nationality American Origin country Ireland Year 1880 Destination country United States County PHILADELPHIA State Pennsylvania Country United States Father's birth place Ireland Father's birth country Ireland Mother's birth country Ireland Spouse's first name(s) Bridget Spouse's last name Cosgrove Spouse's birth place Ireland Source dataset Us Census 1880 View original source record View the record's source Record set British and Irish Roots Collection. Category Travel & migration Subcategory Migration Collections from Americas, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
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KathleenBell
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14 Sep 2018 17:03 |
The USA 1880 census:-
1880 US Census Transcription First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Birth place Henry Cosgrove Self Married Male 38 1842 Ireland Bridget Cosgrove Wife Married Female 35 1845 Ireland Ann Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 12 1868 Pennsylvania James Cosgrove Son Single Male 10 1870 Pennsylvania Patrick Cosgrove Son Single Male 8 1872 Pennsylvania Catharine Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 6 1874 Pennsylvania Mary Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 4 1876 Pennsylvania Margeret Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 3 1877 Pennsylvania
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14 Sep 2018 17:11 |
There are quite a few Henry Cosgroves from Ireland in the census records of the USA.
You need to be sure all the records you have looked at are for the same person.
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14 Sep 2018 18:24 |
Terence....Try 1881 Bridget Cosgrove. Turkey Yard. Dukenfield. Ashton Under Lyme. I cannot get the 1881 to paste on here for some reason….given Mary Ann b Rotherham is with her also a William and Kate I guess it may be your Cosgrove's
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14 Sep 2018 18:29 |
Record Transcription: 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Downe Street, Liverton, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Bridget Cosgrove's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Henry Cosgrove Head - Male 30 1841 - Ireland Bridget Cosgrove Wife - Female 29 1842 - Ireland Annie Cosgrove Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Cosgrove Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Staffordshire, England Mary Ann Cosgrove Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Yorkshire, England
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14 Sep 2018 18:50 |
terence what is bridgets maiden name ????
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Eringobragh1916
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14 Sep 2018 19:25 |
safc...Can you post the 1881.....
Mary Ann b Rotherham she appears to have married a James Deeham and that's where I find Henry aged 70 (Father in Law) 1911 Census Middlesbro.
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14 Sep 2018 19:36 |
safc...Can you post the 1881.....
Mary Ann b Rotherham she appears to have married a James Deeham and that's where I find Henry aged 70 (Father in Law) 1911 Census Middlesbro. James Deeham Head M 42 Middlesbrough, Yorkshire Mary Ann Deeham Wife F 40 Rotherham, Yorkshire Christiana Deeham Daughter F 10 Middlesbro, Yorkshire Mary Ann Deeham Daughter F 7 Middlesbro, Yorkshire Nora Deeham Daughter F 4 Middlesbro, Yorkshire Theresa Deeham Daughter F 1 Middlesbro, Yorkshire Henry Cosgrove Father-in-law M 70 IRELAND
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14 Sep 2018 20:34 |
Record Transcription: 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Turkey Yard, Dukinfield (Cheshire), Ashton under Lyne, Cheshire, England
Bridget Cosgrove
Record: Census Record
Location: Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Bridget Cosgrove
Record: Census Record
Location: Cheshire, England
Bridget Cosgrove's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Bridget Cosgrove Head Married Female 39 1842 Washerwoman Ireland Mary Ann Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Scholar Rotherham, Yorkshire, England William Cosgrove Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Yorkshire, England Kate Cosgrove Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Yorkshire, England
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15 Sep 2018 07:49 |
safc...Thank You for posting the above.. Dont know if that is who Terry is searching for but it does appear to be the " Liverton " Cosgrove's 1871 .
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Terence
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15 Sep 2018 10:06 |
Thanks everybody.Bridget's maiden name was Payton,I think. A tree on Ancestry thinks she married Henry in 1861. Another puzzling thing is that it also says Annie Cosgrove married in 1875 to William Lester at Whitby,and she was born Staffs.Still can't quite fathom it out.
Hope that helps a bit. Terry L.
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Dea
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15 Sep 2018 11:06 |
Hi Terry,
Please forgive me for saying so but it seems to me that you are following info from various trees and going off in many directions, including to America and back and possibly including several different 'Henry's' in your search ?
Perhaps it would be better for us to bare this back to what you actually know to be a fact and what info you have about 'your' Henry and start off with a blank sheet?
Where does he fit into your family please and how have you worked your way back to him?
Thanks,
Dea x
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Kayak
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15 Sep 2018 11:12 |
Marriage???
Marriages Dec 1853 ATTWOOD Thomas Dudley 6c 258 Cosgrove Henry Dudley 6c 258 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Jukes Ann Dudley 6c 258 Payton Bridget Dudley 6c 258 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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15 Sep 2018 11:31 |
I agree with Dea, there looks to be more than 1 Henry Cosgrove married to a Bridget. If the census is correct, then that can't be their marriage in Dudley they would only have been around 11 years old!
The tree on ancestry that I looked at made no mention of Henry in US, but they had used the autofill on the address Yorkshire, putting it in the US.
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15 Sep 2018 11:58 |
The 1871 census posted records event place NEW LONDON Liverton Yorkshire
The 1881 census posted by safc records children William aged 9 and Kate aged 6 born LONDON NEW YORKSHIRE
Possible birth registrations for Kate and William (allowing for irish accent )
COSGROVE, CATHERINE MMN POTTER GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 453
COSGROVE, WILLIAM MMN PATTON GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 442
1881 census for Henry Cosgrove???? Name: Henry Cosgrove Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Mayo, Ireland Civil Parish: Ormesby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 29 Tees Street Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Labourer Registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 4861 Folio: 20 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Henry Cosgrove 50
Possible 1901 census (IN MIDDLESBOROUGH, area matches 1911 census for Henry found living with his daughter and son-in-law :
Henry Cosgrove England and Wales Census, 1901 Name Henry Cosgrove Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (North Riding), England County Yorkshire (North Riding) Civil Parish Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical Parish St Pauls Sub-District Middlesbrough Registration District Middlesbrough Residence Note Argyle Street Gender Male Age 60 Occupation IRON WORKS LABOURER Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1841 Birthplace Ireland Schedule Type 79 Page Number 14 Household
Birthplace Henry Cosgrove Head M 60 Ireland Bridget Cosgrove Wife F 60 Ireland George Newman Visitor M 50 Stewley, Huntingdonshire Anne Newman Visitor F 50 Hull, Yorkshire
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15 Sep 2018 12:49 |
England and Wales Census, 1861 Name: Henry Crossgrove County: Staffordshire Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Event Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England Ecclesiastical Parish: St Marks Ocker Hill Registration District: Dudley Residence Note: Wednesbury Road South Gender: Male Age: 29 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1832 Birthplace: Ireland Page Number: 45 Registration Number: RG09 Piece/Folio: 2043 / 96 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Henry Crossgrove Head Male 29 Ireland Bridget Crossgrove Wife Female 24 Ireland John Crossgrove Son Male 6 Tipton, Staffordshire Anthony Crossgrove Son Male 4 Tipton, Staffordshire Betsy Crossgrove Daughter Female 1 Tipton, Staffordshire ***** MMS Payton
Make of the above what you will....!!
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15 Sep 2018 12:56 |
Baptism....
Name: Elizabeth Cosgrove Residence Place: Bilston, Stafford, England Gender: Female Christening Date: 11 Sep 1859 Christening Date (Original): 11 Sep 1859 Christening Place: Most Holy Trinity, Bilston, Stafford, England Father's Name: Henrici Cosgrove Mother's Name: Birgitta Paton
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15 Sep 2018 14:11 |
Working on the Lester family:
Marriage:
Marriages Jun 1875 Cosgrove Annie Whitby 9d 757 LESTER William Whitby 9d 757
Children: LESTER, ANN ELIZABETH COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 09D Page 494 Possible death:
Deaths Sep 1882 Lester Annie Elizabeth 6 Middlesbro' 9d 405
LESTER, WILLIAM HENRY COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 595
LESTER, ARTHUR COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 574
1881 census: (Family mistakenly recorded as Lister NOT ADDRESS TEES ROAD SAME ROAD AS HENRY COSGROVE IN 1881 CENSUS
Name: William Lister [William Lester] Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Ann Lister Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Ormesby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 35 Tees St<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Labourer In Ironworks Registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 4861 Folio: 21 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age William Lister 26 Ann Lister 24 Ann Lister 5 William Lister 3 Arthur Lister 1 Francis Moan 47
more children:
LESTER, LESTER COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 611 LESTER, JAMES ERNEST COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in MIDDLESBROUGH Volume 09D Page 629
then some time after 1884 it looks like the the family moved to Durham
LESTER, ANNIE ELIZABETH COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 138
LESTER, MARY AGNES COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 116
LESTER, LAVINIA COSGROVE GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 116
Possible 1891 census for Henry and Bridget with grandaughter born Durham also recorded with their 2 children William and Kate:
But now not Henry but William (did someone cross over to another Bridget??) or is William really Henry and the birth dates are wrong)
Name: William Cosgrove Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: Yorkshire, Yorkshire (North Riding) Parish: Linthorpe Ecclesiastical Parish: ST HILDA Registration District: Middlesbrough Residence Note: Italy Street Gender: Male Age: 44 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer In Iron Works Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1847 Birthplace: Ireland Page Number: 11 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 4013/ 79 Household
Head: William Cosgrove aged 44 born Ireland wife: Bridget Cosgrove aged 40 born Ireland son: Willie Cosgrove aged 18 born Yorkshire, England Dua: Kate Cosgrove aged 15 born Yorkshire, England Grandaughter Ann E Lester aged 3 Co Durham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
1891 census for the Lester family:
Name: William Lester Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: Durham Parish: Stranton Ecclesiastical Parish: ALL SAINTS Registration District: Hartlepool Residence Note: Wood Street Gender: Male Age: 34 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Blast Furnace Labourer Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1857 Birthplace: London, England Page Number: 26 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 4066/ 45 Household
Head: William Lester aged 34 born London, England wife: Ann Lester aged 34 born Bilston, Staffordshire, England son: William Lester aged 12 bornYorkshire, England son: Arthur Lester aged 11born Yorkshire, England dau:Sarah Lester aged 9 born Yorkshire, England son: Ernest Lester aged 7 born Yorkshire, England dau: Mary Lester aged 2 born Durham, England dau: Levinah Lester aged 0 born Durham, England
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Terence
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15 Sep 2018 15:00 |
Hi,researchers.I feel I must apologise.I think I have been totally misled,not for the first time,by trees on Ancestry. I was working on William Lester,c,1855,London,marrying a Annie Cosgrove.c.1855,Staffs.I have now found William,Ann and family in Middlesbrough,1911.Married for 38yrs,13 children.The nearest record for their marriage I have found was in Wolstanton,Staffs.1873. This record says William married either Ann Hassall or Ann Edge. Maybe I can work out their Ancestors from this record,now. Thank you all again for your efforts,Terry L.
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