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malyon

malyon Report 11 Sep 2018 18:20

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
DIGBY Marie Louisa Edmonton 3a 367

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2018 18:05

Where have you got Annie Ethel's name from, please?

She's not mentioned on Albert's army record, and doesn't appear to be with him in 1939.
Does his death cert give her name? If so, they couldn't have been together until after 1939 ??

EDIT:
No, of course it will be from one of the children's birth certs.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2018 17:30

It’s a bit of a mess, isn’t it?

I’m wondering if Ada & Albert are actually Hudson’s rather than Breed as I’d assumed. The military record is dated 1917 rather the. 1915.

Name: Albert J Hudson
Registration Date: 1916
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex
Re-registration Year: 1916
Mother's Maiden Name: Brown
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1249

Talk about going round in circles!


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2018 17:07

Dorah is definitely Dorah on the army record - although Ancestry transcribes it as Sarah.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2018 17:03

Trying to find Annie Ethel 's YOB, to try to find her in 1911 -


Here's Albert in 1939 - image says 1884.
Is this yet another partner, or is Alice really Annie Ethel?


Albert Breed
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Albert Breed
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 18 Sep 1881 [1884 on image ]
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Hackney, London, England
Occupation: Incapacitated
Schedule Number: 10
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AIDZ
Registration district: 12/1
Inferred Spouse: Alice Breed
Household Members:
Name
Albert Breed
Alice Breed 12/11/1891

Address: 31 Dalston Lane

EDIT:
Ancestry suggests she is Alice Esther Talmey.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 11 Sep 2018 16:54

Is it Dorah or Dora please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2018 16:29

Dorah and Winifred not with Albert & Marie in 1911:

Albert Breed
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Albert Breed
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: 26 The Hale, Tottenham
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6
Estimated Marriage Year: 1905
Occupation: Cycle Maker
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: East Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 7342
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Breed 27
Marie Lousie Breed 26
Frank William Breed 5
Nell Biddlecombe 19 - visitor

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2018 14:52

Albert Edward Breed 18 Sep 1884-10 Jun 1956 m Marie Louisa Digby in 1907 Edmonton Reg.

At some point between 1911 & 1914 they separated. Albert took up with Annie Ethel Brown & Marie with William Frederick Parsons.

On his enlistment papers in 1915, ( edit - they were dated 1917, He had no idea where Marie lived) he names the following children all born Tottenham, which usually comes under Edmonton.

Dorah 9 Feb 1905
Frank William 5 Jan 1906 [mmn Digby]
Winifred 17 Oct 1908
George 3 May 1912
Ada (Maud) 22 Apr 1914 [mmn Brown]
Albert (James) 24 May 1916 [mmn Brown]

As Dorah & Winifred where born while he was still living with Marie, its conceivable that they were the biological children of Annie Ethel Brown & another male.

Albert sometimes used his stepfathers name of Armstrong, hence the brackets. His siblings had been known to double barrel the surnames.

Can someone sort out the births of Dora, Winifred & George please??