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malyon

malyon Report 11 Sep 2018 23:40

birth for a alice esther talmey

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Talmey Alice Esther Godstone 2a 195

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Sep 2018 23:44

Annie Ethel - born Walthamstow per 1911 census:

BROWN, ANNIE ETHEL mms OAKES
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 100

I can't see Dora or Winifred after the mention in Albert's army record.


Re Alice Breed -
well, she's not Alice Esther Talmey, because AET was born 1889.

There were several Alices born on 12/11/ 1891, in various places

malyon

malyon Report 11 Sep 2018 23:55

on the 1939 reg it says Inferred Spouse does that mean they are not married

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2018 00:01

"Inferred spouse" is what it says for all married couples, Malyon, because the 1939 doesn't specify relationship, so they can't say for sure if two people listed as married are actually married to each other or not.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2018 00:21

Albert and ALICIA :

Albert Breed
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Albert Breed
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney Central
Street address: 31 Dalston Lane


Also Albert and ALICIA in various years at the same address, right up until Albert's death in 1956.

Then Alicia's still listed at the same address until 1962 ER, per Ancestry.

But I expect this is her death:

Deaths Sep 1961 (>99%)
BREED Alicia A M 67 Hackney 5c 560


So possibly this is her birth ??

Births Dec 1891
Richards Alice Annie M Birmingham 6d 193

EDIT:

BUT if her age at death is correct, then she was born 1894.

(Anyway, I think Alice Richards died unmarried in Birmingham in 1958)

So, assuming 12 Nov is correct, then there are these other options:


Births Dec 1894

Chamberlain Alice Annie M Shoreditch 1c 73
Moore Alice Ada M Reading 2c 337
Scott Alice Adelaide M M Chester le S. 10a 536
Warren Alice Amy M Highworth 5a 2


BUT EDIT again:

1.
Not Alice Warren - she married Francis Brown in 1925, and was still Brown at her death in 1972.
2.
Not Alice Scott - she never married, and died in Tunbridge Wells in 1990.
3.
Not Alice Chamberlain - her mms was Danner, and she died in infancy (parents Edward Chamberlain & Alice Danner)
4.
Not Alice Moore - she married Horace Rapson in Reading in 1917, and died in Reading in 1986.

Back to the drawing board!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2018 10:42

Really appreciate your efforts on this. I’ve been going back over this, off & on, over years & have never have got as far as you have. Thank you.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Sep 2018 10:48

If you really want to know who Alice was, perhaps the death cert would tell you previous surnames ?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2018 10:53

Very true, Argyllgran, it’s certainly something to consider. :-)