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Hi,
I have birth and marriage records for this ancestor, my 3xgreatgrandfather who married Elizabeth Harvey in Horsley, Glo in 1812 but am unable to find a record of his death or burial. I know he went to Enniskerry in about 1825 with his wife, Elizabeth but she is then in 1841 Census Records in London with her son, as a widow. It's a major brickwall and I can't find a way through it.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Mary

This is from a tree on ancestry, the owner seems to think he died in Enniskerry but you'd need to check it out to confirm:

Bef. 1831 • Enniskerry, County Wicklow, Ireland

From Will of Mary Harvey Isherwood dated October 1831. Elizabeth Harvey Triscott, sister of Mary and wife of Anthony Amyatt Triscott is described as widow, living in Enniskerry, south of Dublin.

According to a newspaper report Elizabeth (widow of the above) died on 6th Feb. 1881 at 72 Albany St., Regents Park, London. She was in her 87th year.

Dea x

Thanks for your replies. Elizabeth Harvey, died 1881 is my 3xgreatgrandmother.
And you're also right, it is from my tree on Ancestry. And the Will reference is the only clue I have. He may not have died in Enniskerry, though I have checked, tbut no record of a death available. However, I can't find a record of his death in England either.
Mary

I wondered after I'd posted if that was your tree. How are you sure he went to Enniskerry with Elizabeth - he may have died before she went to visit her sister?

It looks like they only had the one child born 1817 which in itself is not unheard of, but unusual. I can't find anything though, thought there would be a will they appeared to be fairly affluent.

I'm not sure AA Triscott went to Enniskerry with Elizabeth. In a letter to her brother in 1826, she asks him to take care of some debts and her son Tony, [Anthony Amyatt Joseph Triscott] when he returns from his school term, as she is leaving; she will write and assures her brother of her gratitude as she 'goes to the bottom' ? No other details.
I can't think why she would go to Ireland unless it was to accompany her husband. If he had been dead, she would have had a large and quite affluent family, as you say, who could have supported her.
The Will in which Elizabeth is described as living in Enniskillen was written in 1832, and her sister , [Mary Isherwood of Old Windsor] died in 1839.
That's my thinking... And I've never seen any reference to another child. As you say unusual but not unheard of.
Thanks for your input.... it has made me think!
This is my first post. Should I click on the 'Mark this as answered each time I receive a reply?

no dont click as answered people wont help any more

Does Elizabeth mention her husband at all in her 1826 letter?

From what you describe, if she was asking her brother to help her with things at home, then it sounds to me as if either her husband was already away somewhere, or he had died.


And NO!!!!!

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It sounds like she may have fallen on hard times - maybe her husband had died (or had deserted her). Her sister and brother-in-law (Rev George Isherwood) may have offered to support her? When George died in 1858 he left a considerable amount (for that time).

I know it's all speculation but I really wonder if he did desert her, and maybe went off abroad? Their son was obviously educated, as he was a solicitor I believe. Did Mary leave her a bequest in the will, it's so difficult to read.

Edit: I may have misread your original post, I assumed Mary & George were in Ireland at the time, although I know both died in England.

Thanks for the info on not clicking!
And no she doesn't mention her husband at all. Not even when she refers to the money. There was a Prison in Horsley and I thought he might have gone there but he's not in the records. Maybe he just took off! But I don't know why Elizabeth would go to Enniskerry, leaving her son behind? She adored him.....

Sounds as if there must have been a pressing reason for her to go - maybe financial, or maybe her sister was already ill.

EDIT:

Oh, no, I see her sister didn't die until 1839.

Oops I've crossed messages..
Yes the will is difficult to read and very confusing. But she does make a bequest to her sister Elizabeth. [The will was problematic , after Rev George died, and was the subject of a judicial inquiry in about 1860]. All the family are named, thus confirming Elizabeth's family tree.
Anthony, the son joined the Merchant Navy and became a Captain in the HEIC.
As you say he may have left the family though why Elizabeth went to Enniskerry remains?
Thanks for following up my references... its reassuring to know you can see my problem!

You've said you check the local prison, in view of the debts mentioned wonder if he ended up in a debtors prison and was maybe deported to Australia. I'm not sure if either of these type of records can be searched on line, but someone else may.

Who knows why she went, other than maye a quick exit to avoid their creditors?

Long shot, ...... Would there be a record from Tony's school regarding his parents or who was paying his fees?
If his father is not named or the information is amended, it might help define a search period for Anthony's absence.

Found the aus transportation records - nothing there for anyone by the name of Triscott.

You've probably already found this from Nat Archives site?

D6700/2/63

Description:

Wills, correspondence and bills of the Triscott and Harvey families, including bill for board and education of Master Triscott, 1828, and letter from lady describing visits to Paris and Lyons, 1828

Date:
1804-1903

Held by:
Gloucestershire Archives, not available at The National Archives

Language: English

Physical description: 1 bdl.

Yes Flip. Those are the letters I'm referring to... very interesting too. I'm amazed at how quickly you've found these references. It took me years!
I'm in Australia and had help from a researcher in Gloustershire. Triscott is a bit unusual so the usual searches would bring up any possible matches, both here and in the UK.
And Gwyn, I don't know which school he attended. The documents from TNA, as above, don't include the name of the school.
If AA Triscott, left in some trouble, and changed his name it would be hard to trace him. Whether it was from Ireland or England. He was a yeoman, according to one record, or a gentleman, according to another. So occupation doesn't help.

Bit late here. I'll be off line now. I really appreciate your interest and ideas.... will recheck a few things now that I've had that feedback. I guess sometimes the record just isn't there. Thanks very much. I'll pick up tomorrow.
Mary

Thinking about school records.............

One would imaging that there were few residential schools at that time. The wording of the letter to his uncle suggests that young Anthony is away until the end of term... but where?

Couple of things to consider after your sleep! Anthony jnr on his marriage in 1843 named his father as exactly the same as himself (ie with Joseph included), a gentleman, and did not say he was deceased - I wonder if he ever knew him? Just because his father is named on his baptism in 18/3/18 doesn't mean he was still around. Or for that matter stuck around long enough to father a child some 5 years after the marriage.

Anthony jnr was an "esquire" no mention of a naval background on his marriage - and I can't see him in the NA records as either in the royal or merchant navy. However his masters & mates certificate in 1851 is on ancestry, so confirms him being in the navy. (I thought I'd found something about him being a solicitor, but may be confusing him with someone else, so ignore that remark!)