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Frederick Ricketts can't find birth

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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 1 Sep 2019 19:26

He is also on below link (as mentioned before, purchasing credits will allow you to see a scan of Register)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/

Chris :)

Burial Register summary
Rickett Frederick John
Burial date 24 October 1912
Location Camden

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 Sep 2019 19:16

Deaths Dec 1912

Rickett Frederick J 2 Holborn 1b 719

Was the death I was posting about


I think those 3 children were the children of George Rickett(s) and MARY Ann Clarke

Nicola

Nicola Report 31 Aug 2019 21:24

Yes Chris ho, that is the death I think is my GT grandfather. I have had a long chat with my mum and she is convinced that her father Frederick Alfred Ricketts and Henry Alfred Ricketts that AustinQ found are the same person. I have searched and many of you with more experience have searched and found no overlap of these to men. I have ordered the death cert for Albert in 1951, Islington to see who registered the death in the hope it will go some way to confirm I am finally on the right track.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 31 Aug 2019 18:25

If you mean below Death...(instead of 1952)

Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%)
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RICKETTS Albert 74 Islington 5c 689


Burial Register summary

Ricketts Albert
11 July 1951
Location Islington

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(Henrietta 1922 there also)

(credits bought on above, will show you the scan)

Chris :)

Edits (not sure if below relates, or has been mentioned anywhere in both 'Threads')

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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RICKETT WILLIAM R CLARKE Holborn 1b 1142


Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Rickett William R 0 Islington 1b 223


Birth
RICKETT, FREDERICK JOHN CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 639

Birth
RICKETT, ALICE MAY CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 650

RICKETTS, MARY ANN AMELIA CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 696

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Aug 2019 15:41

And that Frederick John appears to have died in 1912

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 31 Aug 2019 13:54

this was from the post on your other thread Nicola from 3 years ago

my grand father was Frederick Frances Rickett born march 1910, Holborn as above in 1911 census. with parents George Rickett born 1877 and Mary Ann Clarke, married 1900 in Holborn.

So on that birth he is actually Frederick John - the middle name does seem to change a lot if I have read this thread correctly

Nicola

Nicola Report 30 Aug 2019 19:45

I don't remember mentioning a birth of my grandmother in 1910 or the name Frederick Francis Ricketts? It must have been s long time ago before I had the certificates, it is certainly not relevant now. It is mentioned more than once that he was born in At Pancreas/ Camden. As for the birth dates for Henry and Frederick being the same day and month, I hadn't noticed, it is surely a extraordinary coincidence and a good one

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 30 Aug 2019 15:56

Just as a correction from the previous thread
Nicola you stated that your grandfather was Frederick Frances RIcketts b 1910

There is an error on Freebmd

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
RICKETT Frederick Frances Holborn 1b 639

This should be Frederick John as per the original scan and the GRO record

I have submitted a correction and added a postem to Freebmd

Mary

Mary Report 30 Aug 2019 14:56

So the date of Henry Alfred birth was 23/2/1907 and Frederick's birth 23/2/09 on his death certificate in 1972 seems a bit of a coincidence.

Maryb

Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Aug 2019 23:10

sorry I see he was a patient

Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Aug 2019 23:08

I currently don't have sub's with FMP and they have stoped me looking at anything I previously viewed and paid for, not happy. Is the Albert Henry Ricketts in 1939 living alone LancashireAnn?

Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Aug 2019 23:03

23rd Feb 1907, 28 Sidney St, St Pancras

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 29 Aug 2019 22:44

what was Henry born 1907 actual full birth date

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 29 Aug 2019 22:42

??

Name: Albert Henry Ricketts
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1876
Residence Year: 1939
Address: St Stephen's Hospital, 369 Fulham Road, S.W.10.
Residence Place: Chelsea, London, England
Occupation: House Painter
Schedule Number: 2
Sub Schedule Number: 96
OVSPI: Patient

Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Aug 2019 22:25

Not sure if I should post a new thread relating to above, I got the birth cert for Henry Alfred Ricketts born 1907( son of Albert and Henrietta Ricketts) with no other possible births for my grand father Frederick Alfred? Ricketts I am convinced they are one and the same. So I am asking for some help to try and confirm this. Henry Alfred Ricketts born 1907 disappears after 1911 and first mention of Frederick Alfred? Ricketts is his marriage in 1930, same birth place, same father's name and sister living in Cricklewood. My mum now thinks Alfred could well have been her fathers name. If I can find the other family members( as mentioned by AustinQ) after 1911 as only sister Nellie has been found, the father Albert Ricketts born 1877 ( a death in Islington in 1952 fits) finding any of them in the 1939 register or after will go some way to confirm or rule out if Henry Alfred and Frederick Alfred Ricketts are one and the same person.

Nicola

Nicola Report 31 Aug 2018 01:08

I will try again with mum as she is the oldest one left, it was so disappointing when she dismissed everything. I will look at Fred's death cert again but sure his address was Hagerstown. He drove a Whitbread's brewery truck for many years, wonder if they could provide any info.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Aug 2018 17:32

That's a good idea Det- often the pressure of having to recall something instantly is enough to make you forget.

This also brought memories of my Gran who did not have the greatest memory especially if I asked her direct questions.

So I often tried different tactics- telling her I remembered certain ornaments in her house from when I was a child visiting her- this would often start her telling me where she'd had it from and got her rambling about all sorts of things from the past -some relevant and some not- but all interesting.

By talking about my memories it somehow took the pressure off her.

Not only did I piece together some family names, but I also got to know a little of my Gran's life- her neighbours (the Glunings- she could talk for hours about them!), recipes her mother would cook, the church she went to, and that they lived with bare floors all but for a tiny piece of lino in the doorway which was kept polished so they looked respectable if anyone knocked the door!


+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 30 Aug 2018 11:14

Nichola, ask her again in a month or so. Her memory might have been ticking over in the background & she’ll be able to recall some information.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Aug 2018 07:08

A shame that nothing really rang a bell- although I presume that Frederick was just lodging at the Buttesland Street address so your Mum may not have necessarily known the others in the house.

What were the details on Frederick's death certificate- in particular his address?

Nicola

Nicola Report 29 Aug 2018 21:01

Sorry yes you are right, Arthur was the informant for Elizabeth's death and my mum was the informant for her father Frederick's death and she doesn't even remember doing it!! Been with mum since sunday and she doesn't remember any of the names or places of Albert and Henrietta Ricketts or any of the children and addresses. The only slight memory of anything was Buttsland St but she doesn't remember any of the names at that address either (Bryant, Goodwin) Just that it rings a bell!! I had such high hopes for this latest find and even gave her a glass or 2 of her fave wine but nothing. Think I will order the birth cert for Henry Alfred Ricketts anyway as it seem's to close to disgard.