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Name Alice Rita Johnson
Register Type Cremation
Death Date 4 May 2008
Burial or Cremation Date 28 May 2008
Burial or Cremation Place Greenwich, London, England

Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%)
Mason Olive Wilkinson Bulmer 9d 1177
Wilkinson Richard Mason Bulmer 9d 1177

Moore Household (13 People)
Haddocks Farm Myton-On-Swale, Hlperby, York , Easingwold R.D., Yorkshire (North Riding), England


Arthur R Mason 03 Jun 1891 Male Unpaid Domestic Duties Farmers Wife Married 44 2
Hubert Moore 31 Oct 1889 Male Farmer Own Account Married 44

Ignore the above, which is gibberish
FMP have made a complete hash of the transcription of this record, which ACTUALLY says

Arthur R Mason, 31 Oct 1889 Male Married Farmer Own Account
Olive M Mason Jun 1891 Female Married Unpaid Domestic Duties
Olive Mason (Wilkinson) Sep 1916 Single Assisting Father - unpaid
One closed record, which will be Joseph

These are the parents and sister of Joseph W born 1918

and here is their marriage

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
Grainger Olive M Mason Thirsk 9d 813
Mason Arthur R Grainger Thirsk 9d 813

I wouldn't get the birth certificate until you see the marriage certificate as that should point you, hopefully, in the right direction for the birth certificate. No point spending more than you need to. :-)

I have Joseph Wright Masons mothers maiden name as Wright not Grainger. So maybe I have the wrong family
Jill

Big thank you for the info and yes i think i will splash out and get the birth and marriage certificates many thanks.
Jill

Ah! They had divorced and Alice remarried.

Marriages Jun 1955
JOHNSON Charles H KITCHIN Woolwich 5d 1695
JOHNSON Charles H MASON Woolwich 5d 1695
KITCHIN Alice R JOHNSON Woolwich 5d 1695
MASON Alice R JOHNSON Woolwich 5d 1695

Kitchin Household (1 Person)
165 Westmoor Street , Greenwich, London, England


Cyril H Kitchin 03 Dec 1897 Male H E R J J Woolwich Arsine (Heavy Worker) Married 103 1

Alice was born in 1925 - Queenie in 1932

Their parents


Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)
Holt Alice E P Kitchin Woolwich 1d 2267
Kitchin Cyril H Holt Woolwich 1d 2267

They had nine children in total

I think you need to buy those marriage certificates to see who he names as his father. If it was the same man who married both Alice and Queenie, it is possible that he knocked a few years off his age as he was almost 20 years older than Queenie.

What happened to Alice?

Yes he did marry twice and yes to Queenie.
Jill

You indicated you know the name of his children. If that's the case then it should fairly easy to tell if your Joseph was the man born in 1918 and died in Australia.

Thanks for the extra info now to do some reading many thanks
Jill

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Mason Household (2 People)
3 Hermon Place , Chester-le-Street U.D., Durham, England

Clement Mason
DOB 20 Dec 1873
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Miner (Retired)
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 3
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Dorothy A Mason
DOB 05 Apr 1874
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 3
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2
Ref: RG101/2761B/002/10 Letter Code:
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The tree on Ancestry suggests sometime after his second marriage in 1961 to Queenie Mabel Kitchin (sister of Alice), he travelled to Australia. They give this as his grave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/177460506

And this as his birth:

Name Joseph W Mason
Registration Date 1918
Registration district Darlington
Inferred County Durham
Re-registration Year 1918
Mother's Maiden Name Grainger
Volume Number 10a
Page number 20
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Looking at the births of 2 of the children - they were registered with both Mason and Kitchin surname, indicating they could be children of Queenie and Joseph before their marriage.

Yes, it is important to purchase certificates. This is the only way to prove a relationship within a family. It certainly saves time in researching although seems costly, it is the only way to go.
Good luck
Ru

So, he died in Brentwood as opposed to being born there.

The only way to PROVE anything is to purchase copy certificates

Another tree on Ancestry suggests he was born in 1918 Durham and died in Australia. They have a second marriage for him to Queenie Mabel Kitchin in 1961.

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Electoral Year: 1977
Subdistrict: Bowen 4805
State: Queensland
District: Dawson
Country: Australia

Joseph Wright Mason labr
David Joseph Mason labr
Queenie Mabel Mason

Electoral register:

1949-1950
41 Travis House, Heathside Estate, Lewisham
Alice Rita Mason
Joseph Wright Mason

Death (matching 1939 register posted earlier):

First name(s) JOSEPH WRIGHT
Last name MASON
Gender Male
Birth day 14 May 1913
Death quarter 2
Death year 1993
District Brentwood
District number 4662
Register number 38B
Entry number 044
Date of registration mm/yy 0593