Isabella Carmichael b1828 Fraserburgh, Aberdeen

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Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	18 Jul 2018 19:23
	Isobella Carmichael Scotland Births and Baptisms Name Isobella Carmichael Gender Female Birth Date 15 May 1827 Birthplace KINCARDINE BY DOUNE,PERTH,SCOTLAND Father's Name Robt. Carmichael Mother's Name Mary Livingston
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jul 2018 19:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1861 -1891 census all give Place of birth as just Scotland. However the 1901 says Stirling
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	18 Jul 2018 19:16
	1861 Census 11 Records found Piece: RG9/3138 Place: Preston -Lancashire Enumeration District: 53 Civil Parish: Preston Ecclesiastical Parish: St Paul Folio: 10 Page: 16 Schedule: 77 Address: 3 Everton Gardens Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks THORNTON William M Head M M 44 Pensioner From Army Ireland - - THORNTON Isabella Wife M F 32 Scotland - - THORNTON Mary Ann Dau U F 15 Cotton Weaver Ireland - - THORNTON Robert Son U M 13 Errand Boy Overseas - Foreign - Africa THORNTON William A Son U M 6 Scholar Overseas - Foreign - Africa THORNTON Isabella B Dau U F 4 Scholar Overseas - Foreign - Africa THORNTON Henry James Son U M 2 Lancashire - Lancaster THORNTON Teresa Jennet Dau - F 1m Lancashire - Preston WILLIAMS William Lodger M M 49 Confectioner Lancashire - Manchester Page: 11/17 LANCASTER Edward Lodger M M 39 Engine Joiner Lancashire - Radcliffe Bridge LANCASTER Ann Lodger M F 31 Cotton Cardroom Hand Cheshire - Gatley
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jul 2018 19:13
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Mistranscribed 1861 - a well travelled family ! 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 3, Everton Gardens, Preston, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William M Shorton Head Married Male 44 1817 Pensioner From Army Ireland Isabella Shorton Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Ireland Mary Ann Shorton Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 Cotton Weaver Ireland Robert Shorton Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Errand Boy Africa William A Shorton Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 Scholar Africa Isabella B Shorton Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 Scholar Africa Henry James Shorton Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Lancaster, Lancashire, England Teresa Janet Shorton Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Preston, Lancashire, England William Williams Lodger Married Male 49 1812 Confectioner Manchester, Lancashire, England Edward Lancaster Lodger Married Male 39 1822 Engine Joiner Lancashire, England Ann Lancaster Lodger Married Female 31 1830 Cotton Card Loom Hand Cheshire, England 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Everton Gardens, Preston, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Monaghan Thornton Head - Male 54 1817 - Ireland Isabella Thornton Wife - Female 43 1828 - Scotland Mary Ann Thornton Daughter - Female 25 1846 - Ireland Robert Thornton Son - Male 22 1849 - South Africa William Thornton Son - Male 16 1855 - South Africa Isabella Thornton Daughter - Female 14 1857 - South Africa Alexander Thornton Son - Male 6 1865 - Lancashire, England Henry Thornton Son - Male 12 1859 - Lancashire, England Joseph Thornton Son - Male 3 1868 - Lancashire, England Jeremiah Burns Boarder - Male 72 1799 - Ireland John Murray Boarder - Male 66 1805 - Ireland Peter McCaffrey Boarder - Male 23 1848 - Ireland John Hainsworth Boarder - Male 35 1836 - Ireland William Greenwood Boarder - Male 47 1824 - Herefordshire, England Can find GRO birth entries from Teresa onwards mmn Carmichael
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:38
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Right - Ancestry tree (only one) has her marrying William Monaghan Thornton (1817-1890) in 1844. Nothing for 1851 census, but in Preston, Lancashire in 1861 Parents not named, nor any siblings listed Find My Past does not have an Isabella in 1861 in Preston *** EDIT - yes, transcribed as Shorton They do have an Isabella Thornton in Preston in 1851 but husband is Peter and she was born London. 2 children, youngest possibly with mmn Capps The tree goes on to have her remarrying in 1868 in Fraserburgh (William Thornton still alive) to a William Stephen and back in Preston by 1881 !!!!!!!!!!!
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Are you sure that at age 12/13 she was married in 1841?
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	June	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:34
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	The information came from a member tree in Ancestry so can't confirm parents but Isabella did marry William Thornton
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	June	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:30
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	She was married to William Thornton in the 1841 census but thanks for the information
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:28
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Where did you find the information you've posted? Scotland's People are not showing an 1826-30 birth of that name in Fraserburgh in their OPR records there is this marriage in Glasgow, but no births to match - CARMICHAEL ROBERT MARY LIVINGSTONE/FR6748 (FR6748) 10/06/1825 644/1 400 338 Glasgow
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:15
	Have you found her on any census You need Scotlands People website that isn't a subs site I,m afraid Scottish bmds didn't start till 1855 so the birth wouldn't have been registered
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Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	June	Report	18 Jul 2018 18:06
Member Since: June 2006 Posts: 233 Send Message	Hi i'm looking for the siblings of Isabella, I think her parents were Robert Carmichael and Mary Livingston, would appreciate any Information x

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