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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2018 21:15 |
Just to rule out the Grace Darling Cameron in the 1911 posted speculatively by Malyon -
Grace Darling Cameron was born in Campbeltown, Argyll in 1888 (even though the 1911 says she was born in Portsmouth).
CAMERON GRACE DARLING F 1888 507/ 191 Campbeltown
She married a male nurse named Laurence White in 1913 in Lewes, Sussex. Laurence (Lawrence) is nursing with her in 1911, at same hospital. Lived in Haywards Heath in 1914, per Laurence's army record. She died in Sussex in 1956, still with surname White. Aged 68 at death, therefore born 1888. Administration to Laurence White.
Had three children in Cuckfield, Sussex in 1914, 1915, 1919
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14 Jul 2018 01:02 |
Have you thought about taking a DNA test like the ones from Ancestry or 23andMe?
That might be your best bet.
Rose
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 22:18 |
Ethel remarried:
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%) DEVERY Ethel Wayland 4b 405 Taylor Henry Wayland 4b 405
Ethel Harriett Taylor in the 1911 England Census Name: Ethel Harriett Taylor Age in 1911: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Hilbrough, Norfolk Civil Parish: Caston and Griston County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Northacre, Caston Nr Attleborough, Norfolk Marital Status: Married Years Married: 6 Estimated Marriage Year: 1905 Registration district: Wayland Registration District Number: 231 Sub-registration district: Watton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 97 Piece: 11490 Household Members: Name Age Henry Taylor 60 Ethel Harriett Taylor 36 Harry Taylor 18 John Taylor 16 Ceeran Taylor 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Barnet, Herts. Daisy Phillis Taylor 10 Luthur Taylor 3
TAYLOR, LUTHER ARCHIBALD mms DEVERY GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in WAYLAND Volume 04B Page 241
Hmmm - was Ethel pretending not to have been married before?
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 22:06 |
Birth of Keeran the father:
Births Jun 1900 (>99%) Purse Keeran Barnet 3a 314
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%) Devery Keeran Barnet 3a 537 PURSE Ethel Harriett Barnet 3a 537
Ethel with her son in 1901:
Ethel Purse in the 1901 England Census Name: Ethel Purse Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Swaffham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: South Mimms Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Barnet County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Barnet Sub-registration district: Barnet ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Piece: 1230 Folio: 72 Page Number: 34 Household schedule number: 183 Household Members: Name Age James Maule 38 Henrietta J Maule 38 Daisy M E Maule 11 Lilian A R Maule 10 Henrietta R Maule 7 Henry Maule 5 Ethel L Maule 2 Herbert Maule 25 Ethel Purse 22 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Keenan Parse 11/12 - Herts, Barnet <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bertram J Winkup 30 Herbert Maule 13
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 21:23 |
Oh dear.............
Over and out
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 18:12 |
Quite a lot of research done already on an earlier thread:
https://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1320409
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 17:58 |
As Grace was a relative of yours, are you in touch with her son Keerran V?
Does he not know anything about his mother's origins?
He married in Buckinghamshire in 1965, the quarter before his father's death. As at 2008 he was living in Dorset. His exact address at that time is shown on Ancestry.
He was still living in Dorset in 2013, per 192.com.
His phone number and present address (in the same village as in 2008) are in BT's online phonebook.
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13 Jul 2018 17:18 |
Would a birth certificate for one of her children indicate if she had been previously married? It just seems that, in those days 38 was a bit unusual for the birth of a first child.
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malyon
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13 Jul 2018 17:17 |
Kerran Devery England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005 Name: Kerran Devery Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1917 Registration District: Wayland County: Norfolk Event Place: Wayland, Norfolk, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Catchpole Volume: 4B Page: 577 Line Number: 98
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malyon
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13 Jul 2018 17:05 |
could this be grace in 1911
Grace Darling Cameron England and Wales Census, 1911 Name: Grace Darling Cameron Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Wivelsfield, Wivelsfield Haywards Heath, Sussex, England County: Sussex Parish: Wivelsfield Sub-District: Chailey Registration District: Lewes Gender: Female Age: 21 Marital Status (Original): SINGLE Occupation: ASYLUM NURSE Birth Year (Estimated): 1890 Birthplace: Portsmouth, Hampshire Relationship to Head of Household: Servant Line: 12 Page: 3
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:56 |
First name(s) Rose Isabel Last name Fuller Relationship Inmate Marital status Single Sex Female Age 17 Birth year 1894 Birth place London Occupation Training Girl For Domestic Service House name - House number 17 Street Walpole Road Street Address 17 Walpole Road St John's Convalescent Home Brigthon Parish Brighton County Sussex
Devery Rose Isabel 1894 1980 1980 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Chiltern & Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, England
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:53 |
First name(s) Kerran Last name Devery Year 1909 Entry date 09 Jun 1909 School name Stow Bedon School Town Stow County Norfolk Country England Book type Log Archive name Norfolk Record Office Archive reference C_ED 2_73 Folio / page no. - Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:42 |
The son Keerran was born in Middlesex
Grace's death, purely for info
Deaths Jun 1934 (>99%) Devery Grace 44 Aylesbury 3a 1218
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:40 |
It rather looks as though he was 'between' wives when he fathered Yvonne and her brother, unless the marriage took place somewhere other than England/Wales
Cameron is, of course, a predominantly Scottish surname
He was registered in St Vincent's Hospital, Uxbridge in 1947 and 1948 ER's
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13 Jul 2018 16:33 |
1965 probate - Keerran Devery of 17 Gaviots Close, Fulmer Road, Gerrards Cross, Bucks died 7 October 1965 at Station road Gerrards Cross. Probate Oxford 6 July to Midland Bank Executor and Trustee Company Limited
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=devery&yearOfDeath=1966&page=1#calendar
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13 Jul 2018 16:28 |
The marriage for the 1939 register ? Note spelling - DEVEREY - just in case
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) KEERRAN Last name DEVEREY Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1937 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ KEERRAN DEVEREY married Rose I Fuller Spouse's last name Fuller District Eton District number - County Buckinghamshire Country England Volume 3A Volume as transcribed 3A Page number 2458
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:27 |
Devery Keerran 1900 1965 1965 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Eton, Buckinghamshire, England
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:21 |
Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%) Catchpole Ivy Devery Wayland 4b 577 Devery Keerran Catchpole Wayland 4b 577
Only one birth for Devery/Catchpole combination
Births Jun 1918 (>99%) Devery Ida M Catchpole Wayland 4b 322
Marriages Dec 1937 (>99%) Abel Ernest Devery Wayland 4b 645 DEVERY Ida M Abel Wayland 4b 645
1939 Abel Household (2 People) Northacre Carbrooke Road , Wayland R.D., Norfolk, England
Ida May Abel 01 Apr 1918 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 105 1 Ernest Abel 10 May 1912 Male Builder Labour Married 105 2
Not what you're looking for, I know, but sometimes the bigger picture can prove helpful
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ErikaH
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13 Jul 2018 16:21 |
Yvonne's birth was registered in Amersham district
1939 Devery Household (8 People) No 12 Gaviots Green , Eton R.D., Buckinghamshire, England
Keerram Devery 18 Apr 1899 Male Wood Machinist Sawyer Married 194 1 Rose I Devery 16 Feb 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 194 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Percival C Mead 19 Apr 1902 Male Engineers Pattern Maker Married 194 7 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
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Tonia
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13 Jul 2018 16:04 |
I am having a great deal if trouble finding anything about this relative, I do not know where she was born or who her parents were. I think that she was born about 1890 and that she died in Aylesbury in 1934 aged 44yrs. The informant was Keeran Devery her said husband but I cannot find any marriage record. She had a daughter Yvonne and Keeran. But that is all I know. I would be grateful if anyone could help. Many Thanks Tonia
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