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Henry Shenton born 1889 Sheffield

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Janette

Janette Report 13 Jul 2018 14:11

Hi can any one help please.Henry Shenton was born in Sheffield 1889 to John Shenton born 1860 Sheffield and Mary Ann Watkins born 1862 Cardiff.Henry had siblings Rose,Minnie,Lily,and Doris all born Sheffield.The question is I found a Henry Shenton Royal Artillery (R.H + R.F.A.) Reg number 52058/R.H +R.F.A uk Royal Hospital Chelse Pensioner would this be my Henry Shenton.thank you

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 14:46

Where did you find the Chelsea Pensioner record? What date did it give? I can't see it (so far) on Ancestry.


For our reference:


Henry Shenton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Henry Shenton
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Shenton
Mother: Mary A Shenton
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Piece: 4341
Folio: 117
Page Number: 27
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members:
Name Age
John Shenton 41
Mary A Shenton 39
Rose Shenton 12
Henry Shenton 11
Minnie Shenton 9


Henry Shenton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Henry Shenton
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Ecclesall
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 285 Penistone Rd Sheffield
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Labourer Gas Works
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Registration District Number: 509
Sub-registration district: Ecclesall West Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 27723
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Shenton 47
Henry Shenton 21
Minnie Shenton 19
Doris Shenton 7
Ernest Bayliss 21
Walter Fearnehough 25
Rose Fearnehough 22
Ernest Fearnehough 9/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 14:46

Henry Shenton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Henry Shenton
Death Age: 94
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1889
Registration Date: Dec 1983
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1091

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jul 2018 14:48

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s) Henry
Last name Shenton
Birth year 1890
Birth parish Owlerton
Birth town Sheffield
Birth county Yorkshire
Birth country England
Service number 52038
Regiment Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Year 1908
Attestation date 15 Sep 1908
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 10
Attestation service number 52038 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<52038 - not as per OP
Attestation corps Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Discharge corps Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Document type Attestation
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference WO 97
Box 5885
Box record number 56
Record set British Army Service Records

Says born Owlerton, Sheffield

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jul 2018 14:51

Attested 15 September 1908 aged 18 years 10 months
Discharged 17.10.1908 - Free under article 1058 (iii) Pay Warrant, 1907

NOK - Mother Mrs Mary Ann Shenton of 205 Penistone Road, Sheffield

EDIT - an answer on the Great War Forum to someone who had asked what the discharge was for i.e.article 1058 (iii) Pay Warrant (1909 rather than 1907 as here) -

Sadly I don't have a copy of the Pay Warrant for 1909, but considering that he's only been in the KSLI for 164 days during that period, then I think we're possibly looking at "discharge by purchase".
If you contact the National Army Museum via e.mail they may have a copy of the Pay Warrant for that year and they may look it up for you.
Graham.

Janette

Janette Report 13 Jul 2018 14:53

hiya ArgyllGran I was past a note with it on all it said was the Reg number and uk royal hospital Chelsea pensioner solider service records 1760-1920

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 14:54

Thanks, Janette - Greyghost found him - different service number from the one you quoted.

Janette

Janette Report 13 Jul 2018 15:02

thank you so it was the same Henry Shenton do you know if he married and have a family thanks again

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jul 2018 15:11

Do you know his actual DOB - ahh! Posted as per death record earlier

Not seeing him on the 1939 register (DOB as per death record 30.11.1889)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
SHENTON, HENRY WATKINS Order
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 328 Order

Janette

Janette Report 13 Jul 2018 15:15

I only have his yeay he was born.thank you ArgyllGran and Greyghost for your help.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jul 2018 15:21

If the death is correct above, this is him in 1939:

56a Wisewood Road , Sheffield C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Harry (Henry) Shenton 30 Nov 1889 Male Steel Works Labourer Heat Treatment Married
Elsie Shenton 14 Aug 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Worker Married

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jul 2018 15:30

No wonder not finding him - DOB on FMP transcript given as 1856 !!

Have reported - (and the non existent closed record)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jul 2018 15:39

I'd say it's the correct man- he was baptised in December:

Baptism:
First name(s) Harry
Last name Shenton
Birth year -
Baptism date 11 Dec 1889
Baptism place Sheffield, St Philip
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) John (Labourer)
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Abode: 285 Penistone Road

greyghost

greyghost Report 13 Jul 2018 15:40

Am wondering about this marriage ??? IF Gertrude was known by her second name and that is recorded on the 1939 register with year of birth out by one, on one or the other

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) HENRY
Last name SHENTON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1933
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ HENRY SHENTON married
Gertrude E Parkin
Spouse's last name Parkin
District Sheffield
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Volume as transcribed 9C
Page number 1575

-----------------------------------
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) GERTRUDE ELSIE
Last name SHENTON
Gender Female
Birth day 14
Birth month 8
Birth year 1893
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1993
District Sheffield
District number 0481C
Register number C56A
Entry number 049
Date of registration mm/yy 0693
County Yorkshire
Country England
Record set

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jul 2018 15:43

Well spotted GG

Janette

Janette Report 13 Jul 2018 16:01

I think you are all right it as to be the same person thanks again