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James Williams born 1845 Olveston. Parents James and Mary Williams. Siblings
Joseph 1843-1906
Mark 1847-1854
Henry 1848-1907
Enoch 1851-1851
John 1852-1870
Mary Ann 1854-1892
Mark 1856-1879
Edward 1858-1893
Eliza 1861-1933

Looking for what happened to James after 1861 when age 17 he is living with his parents.

Thought I had found a death for James in 1907 Cheltenham, but since have discovered there is another James Williams who was born in Cheltenham so more likely to be him.

Any help would be appreciated

helina

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James
Last name Williams
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1871
Birth year -
Age at death -
Burial year 1871
Burial date 01 Jul 1871
Burial place Olveston, Gloucester, England
Place Olveston
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Record set England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 No Image

Name: James Williams
Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1845
Baptism Place: Olveston, St Mary, Gloucestershire, England
Father: James Williams
Mother: Mary Williams

Could he have gone to sea

View UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890
Name: James Williams
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1846
Death Date: 6 Sep 1871
Death Age: 25
Ship: Mexicana

That burial is likely to be this one

View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: James Williams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Thornbury
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 115

Thanks Maddie and Shirley

So he went to sea, sad only 25 when he died. Will order a certificate, do not think the death reg for James is correct Shirley, gives James age as 71.

Just out of interest all the children were baptised but not registered
, father was a farmer maybe to busy.

helina

Do not think its the James that died at sea is my James, death dates to not tally and the family were farmers and never moved from the area although there is always the first time.

helina

Change of mind, the 1871 buriel is of his father James Williams 1801-1871 so the sea death could be James junior.

helina

As James died at sea would they register his death at the nearest port? Found a death reg for a 25 year old in Liverpool.

helina

Would probably be on overseas deaths on FMP

My grandad died at sea in 1907 and that's where I found the ref to order a death cert

Here you are

James
Last name Williams
Age 25
Birth year 1846
Death year 1871
Death place Mexicana
Death date 06 Sep 1871
Burial year -
Type At Sea
Occupation 2nd Mate
Place -
County -
Country At Sea
War -
Source Registers Of Deaths At Sea
Records year range 1875-1877
Document type Deaths
Archive reference BT 159/1
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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But the name is very common so may not be him

I do subscribe to FMP but not the world version.

helina

Another possible
Scots Guards Service Records 1799-1939 Transcription

James
Last name Williams
Attestation year 1865
Age 19
Year Of Birth 1846
Regiment Scots Guards
Soldier Number 1618
Birth parish Gloucester
Birth Town Gloucester
Birth County Gloucestershire
Birth Country England
Database Title Scots Guards Service Records 1799-1939
Series British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
copyright Findmypast 2018

Could the above be the same person? James entered the army and in 1871 the army was being transferred from one country to another?

no he is described as second mate on the sea death so he was in the Navy

O f the two am inclined to go for the navy entry, but where do I go from here?

Helina

Seems to be at the National archives

James
Last name Williams
Age 25
Birth year 1846
Birth date 1846
Death year 1871
Death date 6 Sep 1871
Death place Off Swatow
Place Mexicana
Country Great Britain
Reported date 1875
Type At Sea
Vessel name Mexicana
Departure port L'Pool
War -
Source Registers Of Wages And Effects Of Deceased Seamen, 1852-1889
Archive reference BT 153
Box 0015
Page 116
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
© Findmypast