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Does anyone have access to immigration records?

My husbands ggg grandfather Peter Casper b1820 Cochem Germany married Katherine / Catherine Pisor born apx 1825 Germany and came to live in York. They had children and died there. We have all that info already.

What Im looking for is the date/year they came to the uk. My husband was told they married in uk but I cant find a marriage so I believe they married in Germany before they emigrated. Any imigration / ship details would be wonderful.

Thankyou
Cassie

Marriages Dec 1842 (>99%)
BARRASS Richard Hull 22 287
CASPER Peter Hull 22 287 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CRAVEN Matthew Hull 22 287
MILLS Harriet Hull 22 287
Pisor Catherine Kingston Hull 22 287 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
RENNICK John Hull 22 287
Wilburn Harriett Kingston Hull 22 287
YOUNG Margaret Hull 22 287

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First name(s) Peter
Last name Casper
Age Full
Occupation Cordwainer
Marital status B
Residence 33 Middle Street
Marriage year 1842
Marriage date 08 Nov 1842
Marriage place Hull, Holy Trinity
Spouse's first name(s) Catherine
Spouse's last name Pisor
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's residence 33 Middle Street
Spouse's marital status S
Father's first name(s) John Casper
Father's occupation Cordwainer
Spouse's father's first name(s) Leaper Pisor
Spouse's father occupation Carpenter
Witness 1 John Rennick
Witness 2 Margaret Rennick
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PE158/37
Page 75
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11, Friargate, St Mary Castlegate, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Casper Head Married Male 31 1820 Laborer Germany
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Catherine Casper Wife - Female 26 1825 - Germany
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Mary Casper Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
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Peter Casper Son - Male 5 1846 - Hull, Yorkshire, England
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George Casper Son - Male 3 1848 - Hull, Yorkshire, England

I don't believe that there are any immigration records for people coming from Europe to UK,

Thanks ever so much for the info. I hadnt been able to find the marriage for some reason.

Ill send this to my hubby now in Germany as hes looking up their births tomorrow.

Regards
Cassie

Petrus Casper
Deutschland, Rheinland, Bistum Trier, katholische Kirchenbücher, 1704-1957
Name: Petrus Casper
Event Type: Baptism
Event Place: Confeld, Merzig, Rhein, Preußen, Deutschland
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 May 1820
Father's Name: Petri Casper
Mother's Name: Eva Wendels

Passenger records from the continent haven't been kept as people travelled over as foot passengers

Thanks again everyone. Really appreciate the info.

Maylon - thats brilliant! My hubby is going to the records office tomorrow so now he knows what hes looking for. Thanks so much!

Cassie : :-D :-D

Eva Wendels
mentioned in the record of Anna Caspar
Name: Eva Wendels
Sex: Female
Husband: Petri Caspar
Daughter: Anna Caspar
Other information in the record of Anna Caspar
from Deutschland, Rheinland, Bistum Trier, katholische Kirchenbücher

Name: Anna Caspar
Event Type: Baptism
Event Place: Confeld, Merzig, Rhein, Preußen, Deutschland
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Dec 1807
Father's Name: Petri Caspar
Mother's Name: Eva Wendels

Eva Wendels
mentioned in the record of Maria Caspar
Name: Eva Wendels
Sex: Female
Husband: Petri Caspar
Daughter: Maria Caspar
Other information in the record of Maria Caspar
from Deutschland, Rheinland, Bistum Trier, katholische Kirchenbücher

Name: Maria Caspar
Event Type: Baptism
Event Place: Confeld, Merzig, Rhein, Preußen, Deutschland
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1816
Father's Name: Petri Caspar
Mother's Name: Eva Wendels

Evae Wendls
mentioned in the record of Barbara Caspar
Name: Evae Wendls
Sex: Female
Husband: Petri Caspar
Child: Barbara Caspar
Other information in the record of Barbara Caspar
from Deutschland, Rheinland, Bistum Trier, katholische Kirchenbücher

Name: Barbara Caspar
Event Type: Burial
Event Place: Confeld, Merzig, Rhein, Preußen, Deutschland
Age: 24
Birth Year (Estimated): 1805
Death Date: 6 Apr 1829
Father's Name: Petri Caspar
Mother's Name: Evae Wendls

their marriage

Eva Wendels
Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929
Name: Petrus Caspar
Spouse's Name: Eva Wendels
Event Date: 20 Jul 1795
Event Place: Katholisch, Confeld, Rheinland, Prussia
Father's Name: Michaelis Caspar
Mother's Name: Barbarae Cunn
Spouse's Father's Name: Jois. Wendels
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mariae Theobald

In the marriage details, as posted by safc, Peter Caspar's father is recorded as JOHN Caspar, not Peter or Petri.

So this is an alternative possible baptism, a little later than expected

Peter Caspar

in the Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898


Name: Peter Caspar<<<<<<<<<<<<
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Jul 1823
Baptism Place: Katholisch,Forst **Cochem**,Rheinland,Prussia
Father: Joann Caspar<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Maria Catharina Thomas
FHL Film Number: 584941

????

Peter Kaspar

Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
christening:
26 June 1822
KATHOLISCH, BUCHENBACH, FREIBURG, BADEN
father:
Johan Georg Kaspar
mother:
Maria Schwarz

Peter Caspari

Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
christening:
21 November 1818
EVANGELISCH, ERLENBACH KANDEL, PFALZ, BAVARIA
father:
Johann Georg Caspari
mother:
Appellonia Kauter

Peter Simon Lander-Caspar

Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
christening:
5 July 1818
EVANGELISCH, SCHOETMAR, LIPPE, GERMANY
father:
Johann Friedrich Lander-Caspar
mother:
Anna Maria Landercaspar Or Sprick

Wow! What a lot of info. Thankyou all!

Ive had a reply from the owner of a tree and he states the father of our Peter Casper / Caspar was indeed Johann Caspar and Maria Thomas.

With the info above we can now narrow diwn the dates. My hubby is going to have a busy day at the records office tomorrow!

Regards and thsnks everyone. Have a lovely day!

Cassie :-D

Hi all

We know very little about Peter Casper's wife - Catherine PISOR but rumour has it she came from a well-to-do family and her family didnt approve of Peter so they ran away and eloped.

This fits with them coming to England and marrying in Hull. We dont know exactly when they arrived in England but suspect they married pretty quickly (1842). Her year of birth is believed to have been 1825 which would have made her 17 on marriage which would account for them eloping.

Cassie

I am wondering if this might be 'our man', though I can't see any sign of her yet and I know it is rather a long shot ??

Name: Caspar
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival date: 5 Nov 1842
Port of Departure: Ostend, Belgium
Ship: Sir Edward Banks
Country of Origin/Native of: Germany
It gives his profession but I can't read it I am afraid.

It would have got him here in time for the wedding but only just !!!

Dea x

The marriage was after banns, rather than by licence. The groom 's address was 33 Middle St, the bride's was Jane or James (hard to read) Place. Both fathers are desrcibed as 'the late ...'

Thanks Dea. He and Catherine married in the last qtr of 1842 so its a possible but that would mean she was either already here ot followed very soon after. As Hull is a port we assumed they had come straight there.

Kucinta
Very interesting that they lived at different addresses even though we were lead to believe they had eloped. That could mean they did come over seperately (maybe pre planned). If banns were read that would mean that it wasnt too much of a hurry?. They dont appear to have had any children until 1844 so it wasnt a 'rushed' wedding it appears.

All this info is great. Im going to type it all up and pass it to my hubbys family.

Thanks again everyone! ;-)

I was trying to follow the witnesses at the wedding just in case that gave a lead but I haven't been able to find them yet.

Although I did note that the witnesses were married at the same time as 'our' couple so they could equally well just have been strangers who they called upon to do that duty especially probable if they had been in the4 country for such a short time and may well not have known anyone else?

I will see if I can find them somewhere, just in case?

Dea x