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MMN Randall or Thorpe

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Lottiesgran

Lottiesgran Report 20 Jun 2018 18:30

Please can any one help
I am trying to help my friend with his tree his great grandfather
John Foster born 1865 Hucknall Notts married to Elizabeth Randall born 1870 Durham they married 1889 Mansfield Dist

They had 7 children according to the 1911 census
Annie 1890 died 1892
John Charles 1892
Eliza Ann 1896
Susan Emma 1899
Gladys May 1903
Harry 1905
Amy Mary Ann 1908

all born Mansfield Dist

Have checked for Randall for MMN on the GRO but Annie 1890 and Eliza Ann 1896 are registerd as Thorpe not Randall why ? was Elizabeth a Thorpe or a Randall ?


Hope some one can help Thankyou Christine

safc

safc Report 20 Jun 2018 18:39


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Willowbridge Lane, Sutton in Ashfield, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles Thorpe Head Married Male 48 1843 Nottinghamshire, England Collier
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Susan Thorpe Wife Married Female 44 1847 Norfolk, England -
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Eliza A Thorpe Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Durham, England Hosiery Factory Hand
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Emma Thorpe Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Yorkshire, England Hosiery Factory Hand
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Elizabeth Foster Daughter Married Female 21 1870 Durham, England -
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John Foster Son In Law Married Male 25 1866 Nottinghamshire, England Collier
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Annie Foster Granddaughter - Female 0 1891 Nottinghamshire, England -

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 18:53

Looking at the 1891 census and where Elizabeth was born - is this possible? That would make Elizabeth born a Randall maybe but always knew Charles thorp as her Father

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name THORP
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1869
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ CHARLES THORP married one of these people
Susan Randall, Maria Annie Morritt
District Auckland
District number -
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Volume as transcribed 10A
Page number 256

safc

safc Report 20 Jun 2018 18:53


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Hunwick, Hunwick, Auckland, Durham, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Thorpe Head - Male 26 1845 - Durham, England
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Susan Thorpe Wife - Female 23 1848 - Norfolk, England
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Elizabeth Thorpe Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Durham, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 18:56

??
no mmn recorded - usually means an illegitimate birth

Name:............................................. Mother's Maiden Surname:
RANDALL, ELIZABETH HERBERT -
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 348

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 19:00

Name: .................................Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
RANDALL, SUSAN ............ EASTGATE Order
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in THETFORD UNION Volume 13 Page 272

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 19:04

1891 census shows Susan born in Methwold so ? this is her

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pit, Methwold, Thetford, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel Randle Head Married Male 48 1803 Hawker Methwold, Norfolk, England
Mary Randle Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Feltwell, Norfolk, England
Charles Randle Son - Male 13 1838 - Methwold, Norfolk, England
Edward Randle Son - Male 13 1838 - Methwold, Norfolk, England
Susan Randle Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Methwold, Norfolk, England

RANDLE, EDWARD EASTGATE EASTGATE Order
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in THETFORD UNION Volume 13 Page 293

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 19:14

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wisbeach Road, South Lynn, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Cockrell Head Married Male 62 1799 Rope Maker Tottington, Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Cockrell Wife Married Female 62 1799 - Methwold, Norfolk, England
Susan Rendall Niece Unmarried Female 13 1848 Scholar Methwold, Norfolk, England

Lottiesgran

Lottiesgran Report 20 Jun 2018 19:21

Thankyou greyghost and safc for your help
It just seemed odd that the 1st and 3rd children should have a different MMN

Thankyou Christine

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jun 2018 19:21

Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription

First name(s) John
Last name Foster
Marriage year 1889
Marriage date 23 Jul 1889
Marriage place Mansfield
Church SS Peter & Paul
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Randall
County Nottinghamshire
Country England