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Hi
Can you please help tie up this loose end in my tree.
Samuel Richard Cutbill and his wife Maria Tappenden had three children before his death in 1845.
There is no sign of Maria on the 1851/1861 census but in 1871 Maria appears as Maria Cathie (transcription error) with daughter Emma Cathie who was born in New York c1850.
In 1881 it was Maria Cutbill and daughter Emma Cutbill born 1950 New York
The 1891/1901 and the 1911 census all give Emma's birth date as 1850 New York.

Firstly Samuel Richard Cutbill couldn't have been the father?
When did Maria go to New York to give birth to Emma?
Where are Maria and Emma in 1851/1861
Wendy

Is this the family you're looking at - to give an idea of ages and places as you didn't mention those

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Union Terrace, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Maria Cutbill Female 25 1816 -
Maria Jane Cutbill Female 4 1837 Middlesex, England
Caroline Tappenden Female 25 1816 -

Apart from Maria Jane there are these other births ?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CUTBILL, ANN TAPPENDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 104 Order

CUTBILL, ANNIE TAPPENDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 19

CUTBILL, RICHARD TAPPENDEN Order
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 499 Order

And deaths of 3 of the children

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
CUTBILL, ANNE 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 296

CUTBILL, RICHARD 0 Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 312

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
CUTBILL, MARIA JANE 9 Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 316

View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: Samuel Richd Catbill
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1836
Marriage Place: St George in the East, Tower Hamlets, England
Spouse: Maria Tappenden
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses Anne Cutbill and Caroline Tappenden
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And is this Samuel Richard's death - known as Richard?

CUTBILL, RICHARD 38 Order
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 361

Not seeing a death for Annie born 1842, nor an 1851 census entry, so she may have travelled with her Mother?

Online Passenger lists start at 1890, unless someone has access to American arrivals

And this is Maria and Emma in 1871 - not quite such a bad transcription from FMP

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Albion Street, Trinity, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Maria Cuthil Head - Female 53 1818 - Kent, England Transcription
Emma Cuthil Daughter - Female 21 1850 - United States Transcription

Maria is listed as a Tailoress born Deal, Kent and Emma as a Machinist b New York

There are a number of trees on Ancestry, but none have 1845 - 1871 time frame completed except to say Emma was born 1850 ish New York. They restart with the 1871 census.

Not seeing an obvious entry on US census

Maria Cutbill
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Maria Cutbill
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1898
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
County: London
Event Place: Mile End Old Town, London, England
Age (available after 1866): 82
Birth Year (Estimated): 1816
Volume: 1C
Page: 302
Line Number: 82

1881 census

Event Place: Mile End Old Town, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Residence Note: Albion Street
Gender: Female
Age: 65
Marital Status (Original): Widow
Occupation: Tailoress
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1816
Birthplace: Deal, Kent, England
Page Number: 66
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 485/36
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Maria Cutbill Head Female 65 Deal, Kent, England
Emma Cutbill Daughter Female 30 New York, America
Annie Sleapy Daughter Female 38 London, Middlesex, England
Henry A Sleapy Grand Son Male 8 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Isabella A Sleapy Grand Daughter Female 4 Mile End, Middlesex, England
Herbert E Sleapy Grand Son Male 1 Mile End, Middlesex, England

There's a marriage of Annie Cutbill to Francis Joseph Heapy in 1865 but she lists her father as Richard Cutbill a police sergeant.

Thanks everyone,it was a very slim chance that my problem could be solved but the community has often beaten all the odds to come up with the answer. Thank you again for trying.
Wendy

Annie Cutbill's marriage 8 March 1865 probably correct - the marriage shows Father as Richard a Sergeant of Police as noted by MargaretM and her address as 4 Charles Street. One of the witnesses is an Emma Cutbill. Annie's age shown as 22 which would fit with the Q4 1842 birth reg.

Samuel Richard is listed as a Policeman on the baptism record of Maria Jane 22 Nov 1838 St Dunstan's Stepney, (although by 15 June1845 and son Richard's baptism he is a Cabinet Maker of 17 Charles Street).

So, either Annie stayed behind when Maria went to America or they had returned before 1865. May cut down the possible travel years.

If it's the correct death for Samuel Richard, his death was registered as just Richard as posted earlier

Hi
Samuel Richard's death was registered as Richard Cutbill in 1845.I did notice that Emma Cutbill was a witness to Annie's marriage,she would have been about 15 years old.I've tried to find a record of her birth in New York but with no success.
If Annie stayed in England I can't find her in 1861,the census before her marriage.
Wendy