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Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	12 Jun 2018 23:46
	Hi. Can anyone find the 1891 census details of the above couple? Or if not 1891 then 1901? In 1901 they would be in Burnley. Both born around 1861 . Possible Ireland ? One child Thomas born Haslingden 1895. But think four older ones before him. Also peter born Burnley and Catherine. Can't find marriage so think maybe married in Ireland. But definitely in Lancashire in 1895 . William died 1905 . Thanks ?? :-)
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	12 Jun 2018 23:51
	1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 25, Mosley Street, Burnley, Lancashire, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation William Tracey Head Married Male 44 1857 Ireland Cotton Spinner Transcription Catherine Tracey Wife Married Female 44 1857 Burnley, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription William Tracey Son Single Male 11 1890 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription Ellen Tracey Daughter Single Female 12 1889 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription John Tracey Son - Male 10 1891 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription Thomas Tracey Son - Male 8 1893 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription Peter Tracey Son - Male 5 1896 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription Catherine Tracey Daughter - Female 0 1901 Burnley, Lancashire, England -
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:06
	Thanks is there any sign of them in 1891 as if all children born around Burnley area then Catherine born in Burnley then presume they lived Burnley area in 1891 ? Though Thomas birn in 1895 in Haslingden :-)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:12
	Shirley .. us the new GRO Index to find children ........... you can enter mmn https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ You have to register, but it is free eg TRACEY, WILLIAM mmn YOUNG GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 552 TRACEY, ELLEN mmn YOUNG GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in BURY, BURY AND LANCASTER Volume 08C Page 613 Order
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:21
	Thankyou . Got a,bit further . So in bury or Haslingden 1890. So can anyone fibd them on census in 1891 in bury area ? :-)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:21
	I can find no trace of them in 1891. I wonder if they were missed, or if there has been a very strange mistranscription of the name?
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:27
	Yes,thought that myself as no sign of them getting married either or a birth of Catherine young around 1857/61 in Burnley area or bury area either :-S
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:37
	SUCCESS!!!!! I think! A Public Family Tree on ancestry gave me this link .......... 1891 Census Name: W Tracey Gender: Male Age: 33 Relationship: Lodger Birth Year: 1858 Birth Place: Ireland Civil Parish: Heap Residence Place: Heywood, Heap, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: Heywood ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Piece: 3133 Folio: 137 Joseph Fielding 43 Lodging House Keeper Sarah Ann Fielding 48 . . . . . W Tracey 33 Winder (Cotton) C Tracey 29 Cotton Weaver W Tracey 2 C Tracey 1/12 . . . . The familial information for Catherine is WRONG, nowhere on the image does it say that she is the daughter of the Fieldings, the Lodging House keepers! Name: C Tracey [C Fielding] Gender: Female Age: 29 Relationship: Daughter Birth Year: 1862 Father: Joseph Fielding Mother: Sarah Ann Fielding Birth Place: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Name: W Tracey Gender: Male Age: 2 Relationship: Lodger Birth Year: 1889 Birth Place: Heywood, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Heap Residence Place: Heywood, Heap, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: Heywood ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Name: C Tracey Gender: Female Age: 1/12 Relationship: Lodger Birth Year: 1891 Birth Place: Heywood, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Heap Residence Place: Heywood, Heap, Lancashire, England Address:- Numbers 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 18 Lodge St (Lodging House)
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:40
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	This is the closest I'm finding for 1891 but there are obvious discrepencies in it. Name: W Tracey Gender: Male Age: 33 Relationship: Lodger Birth Year: 1858 Birth Place: Ireland Civil Parish: Heap Residence Place: Heywood, Heap, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: Heywood ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 3133 Folio: 137 Plus many other names. W Tracey 33 M marker of cotton C Tracey 29 F b Ormskirk, weaver of cotton W Tracey 2 M b Heywood C Tracey 1/12 F b Heywood J Healy 22 P Fletcher 37 M Fletcher 37 J Parkington 41 EDIT See you got there first Sylvia! :-D
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:40
	The baby C Tracey on the 1891 must be Ellen ............ maybe they originally intended to call her Catherine, but changed their mind before they registered her?!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:44
	??????????? Births Jun 1861 (>99%) YOUNG Catharine Ormskirk 8b 587
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:45
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Burial: 25 Sep 1905 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England William Tracey - Age: 48yrs Abode: Whip Street Grave: A15643 Notes: Buried in a Public Grave Gender: M Register: Burials 1904 - 1909, Page 90, Entry 64805 Source: Original Registers Book 9 Baptism: 3 Sep 1899 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley, Lancashire, England Petrus Tracy - filius Gulielmi Tracy & Catarinae (formerly Young) Born: 21 Feb 1898 Abode: 29 Morley Str. Godparents: Maria Brinkman Baptised by: Jacobo Can. Morrissey, Rec. Miss. Register: Baptisms 1898 - 1908, Page 46 Source: Original Parish Register Baptism: 29 Aug 1900 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley, Lancashire, England Catharina Tracy - filia Gulielmi Tracy & Catharinae (formerly Young) Born: 1900 Abode: 6 Mosley St. Godparents: Jacobus Lofthouse; Catharina Wilford Notes: Matrimonium contraxit cum Carolo Whitehead Holt die 23 Julii 1928 in Ecclesia St. Josephi apud Ramsbottom. I. B. Baptised by: Josepho Ward Register: Baptisms 1898 - 1908, Page 76 Source: Original Parish Register
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,049 Send Message	safc	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:50
	from find my past 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Learn more Print View image Add to tree First name(s) W Last name Trasey Relationship Lodger Marital status Married Sex Male Age 33 Birth year 1858 Birth town - Birth county - Birth place Ireland Birth place other as transcribed IRELAND Occupation Marker Cotton House name Lodging House Street Lodge Street Town Heywood Parish Heap City Heywood County Lancashire Country England Registration district Bury Archive reference RG12 Piece number 3133 Folio 137 Page 31 Record set 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd Report an error in this transcription Print View image Add to tree
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	13 Jun 2018 00:56
	????? Catherine in 1861 1861 Census Name Catherine Young Age 2/12 Estimated Birth Year 1861 Relation Daughter Mother's Name Mary Young Gender Female Where born Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Civil parish Ormskirk Town Ormskirk County/Island Lancashire Country England Registration district Ormskirk Sub-registration district Ormskirk ED, institution, or vessel 4 Household schedule number 20 Piece 2765 Folio 73 Page number 5 Patrick Mulloy Ann Mulloy Patrick Mulloy Maria Mulloy James Mulloy James Hallagan >>>>>John Young 25, b.ca. 1836, Ireland, Lodger, Ag Lab >>>>>Mary Young 25, b.ca 1836, Ireland, Lodger >>>>>Catherine Young William Green Jane Green James Green Joseph Green Address:- Old Ship Yard, Moor Street, Ormskirk
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 19:46
	Hi thanks everyone. I'd like to think it is them in 1891 in heap but not certain. But it is a,possible . C could be Ellen , who ended up being Nellie. Can anyone find Catherine the mother in 1911? Should still be in Burnley as she remarried in 1916 to James murphy. ? :-S
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 19:59
	Can you see if on any of the census 1891 or 1901 if it says where in Ireland William was born ? :-)
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Jun 2018 20:25
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1911 for Catherine? Living with Ellen. 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 28 Baron Terrace Burnley, Burnley, Lancashire, England Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Thomas A Burton Head Married Male 23 1888 Ashbourne Derbyshire Coal Miner Hewer Transcription Ellen Burton Wife Married Female 20 1891 Heywood Lancs Cotton Ring Spinner Transcription >>Catharine Tracey Mother Widow Female 46 1865 Ormskirk Lancs - Transcription Jenny Burton Daughter - Female 0 1911 Burnley Lancs - Ellen's marriage. Marriage: 30 May 1912 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley, Lancashire, England Thomam Burton - Helenam Tracey - Groom's Father: Alfredi Burton Bride's Father: Guliemi Tracey Witness: Alexander Alston; Alicia Alston Married by: Jacobus McDonnell Register: Marriages 1905 - 1935, Page 70 Source: Original Parish Register
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 22:00
	Thanks guys. Brilliant. Well done. Much appreciated . Guess it's probably impossible to find out where in Ireland William was born. They usually dobt put the county do they ? :-) :-S
Member Since: November 2003 Posts: 1,010 Send Message	Shirley	Report	13 Jun 2018 22:08
	Can anyone spot a marriage,for William and Catherine if she was born ormskirk then can't see it being Ireland where they married. Am estimating marriage from 1881 to possibly 1889 when first child born. More likely a,later marriage of around 1887 ish ? :-S
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	13 Jun 2018 22:26
	Her parents were both from Ireland. I can't see Catherine in 1871 or 1881, so maybe they returned to Ireland, and then she married there. I don't see the marriage, though.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

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