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12 Jun 2018 09:29 |
Darton is a village in the Barnsley borough
?? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Duke Lane, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Miles Challinger Head Married Male 34 1817 Grinder Barnsley, Yorkshire, England Eliza Challinger Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England John Challinger Son - Male 9 1842 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Morgan Challinger Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Miles Challinger Son - Male 4 1847 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
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12 Jun 2018 09:16 |
Benjamin also at Castle Green in 1841. He's a Cordwainer (Shoe maker)
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Castle Green, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Benjamin Challenger Male 25 1816 Yorkshire, England Mary Challenger Female 25 1816 Yorkshire, England Phoebe Challenger Female 8 1833 Yorkshire, England Sarah Challenger Female 4 1837 Yorkshire, England Mary Challenger Female 2 1839 Yorkshire, England Thomas Wilkes Male 50 1791 - Thomas Marsh Male 20 1821 - Maria Marsh Female 20 1821 - Thomas Smith Male 40 1801 Scotland Mary Smith Female 40 1801 Scotland Colin Gunn Male 20 1821 Scotland
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12 Jun 2018 09:13 |
1841 census ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 for anyone over 15, so Phoebe could be aged 60 - 64, so born 1777-1781
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Castle Green, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Phoebe Challenger Female 60 1781 Yorkshire, England John Challenger Male 7 1834 Yorkshire, England Charles Challenger Male 18 1823 Yorkshire, England
Charles is a Grinder
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12 Jun 2018 09:02 |
Thanks for the info i will have a good read many thanks Greyghost Jill
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12 Jun 2018 09:00 |
Note possible other spellings of surnames
CHALINGER, MARY ROWBOTTOM Order GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 623 Order CHALENGER, SAMUEL ROWBOTTOM Order GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 601
CHALLANGER, NANCY ROWBOTTOM Order GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 621
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12 Jun 2018 08:43 |
According to this census Phoebe was born 1777
It also suggests that Benjamin and Mary had more than 1 child
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 44, Trippet Lane, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Phoebe Challenger Head Widow Female 74 1777 Shoe Dealer Brotherton, Yorkshire, England Benjamin Challenger Son Married Male 39 1812 Shoe Maker Yorkshire, England M Challenger Daughter Married Female 40 1811 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England V Challenger Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England S Challenger Daughter - Female 14 1837 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England S Challenger Son - Male 10 1841 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England M Challenger Daughter - Female 6 1845 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England J Challenger Son - Male 3 1848 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Benjamin Challenger Son - Male 0 1851 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
V on original probably a P
Benjamin 0 on transcript is aged 7 months on original
Below from this site - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro - free, need to register
Gives mmn from 1837 - 1917 (freebmd and commercial sites only start with mmn from late 1911) and age at death from 1837-1957 (ditto only from c 1866)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CHALLENGER, BENJAMIN JOHNSON ROWBOTHAM Order GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 646 Order
CHALLENGER, JAMES ROWBOTHAM Order GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 671
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12 Jun 2018 08:33 |
From free to use site - https://www.familysearch.org
Miles Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 December 1818 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Challenger mother: Phoebe Phoebe Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 30 July 1820 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Challenger mother: Phoebe Ann Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 December 1818 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Challenger mother: Phoebe
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Jonathan Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 10 June 1810 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: Jonathan Challenger
Elizabeth Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 5 March 1812 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: Jonathan Challenger
Mary Challenger England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 6 September 1807 DARTON, YORK, ENGLAND father: Jonathan Challenger
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12 Jun 2018 02:07 |
Hi Genes members I am wondering if anyone here is in My Heritage or Ancestry.com as they have information that I am after I will copy and paste the info I got off the net so it makes it easier.
Benjamin Challinger was born in 1813, at birth place, to John Challinger and Phoebe Challinger (born Clayton). John was born on July 25 1790, in Darton, All Saints, Yorkshire, England. Phoebe was born in 1795, in Brotherton, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Benjamin had 6 siblings: Twin Challinger, Charles Challinger and 4 other siblings. Benjamin married Mary Ann Challinger (born Rowbottom). Mary was born on January 17 1811, in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England. They had one son: Samuel Challinger. Benjamin married Isabella Mutyuli Rigney (born Sumner). Isabella was born circa 1856, in Ngarrindjeri land, Coorong, South Australia Died in 1925 - Point Mcleay / Raukkan, South Australia See Rigney Family Genealogy From The S.A. Museum. Benjamin lived in 1841, at address. He lived in 1851, at address. His occupations were occupation and occupation. Benjamin passed away on month day 1895, at age 82 at death place. He was buried at burial place.
This is the info on the net I need the marriage dates and the six siblings for Benjamin born 1813 also any birth dates for Samuel Challinger. There is also a document I cant seem to get up without joining My Heritage any help would be appreciated. Jill
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