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Frances
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15 Jun 2018 09:54 |
Thank you EricaH, that is my William, whom I have now determined was born March 1860 and, it would appear from the census, that he and Annie Louisa had no children.
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ErikaH
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13 Jun 2018 16:51 |
Name: Annie L Wells Gender: Female Age: 26 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1865 Spouse: William Wells Birth Place: Barugh, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Acomb Residence Place: Acomb, Acomb, Yorkshire, England Sub registration district: Poppleton ED, Institution or Vessel: 1 Piece: 3517 Folio: 9 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 31 Annie L Wells 26
Name: Annie Louisa Ells [Annie Louisa Hawkins] Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: William Wells Father: Thomas Hawkins Mother: Mary Anna Hawkins Birth Place: Barugh, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Dringhouses Ecclesiastical parish: Dringhouses Town: Dringhouses County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Micklegate ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Piece: 4444 Folio: 13 Page Number: 18 Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 41 Annie Louisa Ells 36 Thomas Hawkins 63 Mary Anna Hawkins 60
Name: Annie Louisa Hawkins Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1865 Baptism Place: Darton, All Saints, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Darton, All Saints Father: Thomas Hawkins Mother: Mary Anne Hawkins
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ErikaH
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13 Jun 2018 16:47 |
WELLS, ALFRED HODGSON Order GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 46
WELLS, EMILY ANN HODGSON Order GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 30 Order
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ErikaH
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13 Jun 2018 16:45 |
Can't work out exactly who you're looking for......
Which William is your PROVEN ancestor?
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13 Jun 2018 16:43 |
WELLS, WILLIAM LAWYER Order GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 40 Order
WELLS, WILLIAM HODGSON Order GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 33 Order
WELLS, WILLIAM PERRY Order GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in OF YORK Volume 09D Page 26
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AustinQ
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12 Jun 2018 18:37 |
Not sure what you mean about William being the only brother to Walter? What about Alfred?
It would help if you could confirm if the 1881 census posted is your family (parents William and Mary J).
Yorkshire Marriages
name(s) Alfred Wells (Fitter) Age 23 Birth year 1868 Residence Hull Marriage year 1891 Marriage date 03 Aug 1891 Marriage place York, St Thomas Spouse's name(s) Leavinia Sophia Ascough Spouse's age 23 Spouse's residence 81 Lowther St Father's name(s) William Wells (Confectioner's salesman) Spouse's father's name(s) William Ascough (House painter & decorator) County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)
Witnesses: William Ascough & Emily A Wells --------------------------------
Alfred in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Havelock Villa, 6, Havelock Street, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Alfred Wells Head Married Male 32 1869 York, Yorkshire, Marine Engine Fitter Leavina Sophia Wells Wife Married Female 33 1868 Ripon, Yorkshire, England - Dorothy Wells Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Hull, Yorkshire, England - Kate Wells Daughter Single Female 7 1894 Hull, Yorkshire, England - George Wells Son Single Male 5 1896 Hull, Yorkshire, England - William Wells Son Single Male 2 1899 Hull, Yorkshire, England ----------------------
EDIT: Think I have misread your post (-William being only the brother of Walter- and not as I read- William, the only brother!)
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Frances
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12 Jun 2018 18:03 |
Hi all again, marriage certificate for William c.1860 to Annie Elizabeth Taylor gives father's name as Daniel so wannabe cousin is, after one day, no longer a cousin so my William Wells 1860 is obviously the other one and I need to go through all your posts again to see who my William 1960 actually married! Annie Louisa Hawkins is now favourite but as we are being back to William being only the brother to my grandfather Walter the heat is off! Again thanks for all your help and I will now go to sleep happy thinking Annie Louisa Hawkins is the lucky lady!
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Maddie
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12 Jun 2018 11:10 |
????????? WELLS, WALTER HODGSON Order GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in OF YORK IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF
is this correct parents william and mary j
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jun 2018 08:56 |
Sorry, AQ - I hadn't noticed your earlier post about the two marriages.
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AustinQ
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12 Jun 2018 06:42 |
FMP 1881 (already posted)- occupation and age for William fit with above census for William and Annie- :
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12, Whitby Terrace, Gate Fulford, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
William Wells Head Married Male 47 1834 Yorkshire, England Confectioners Shopman Mary J Wells Wife Married Female 45 1836 Yorkshire, England William Wells Son Single Male 21 1860 Yorkshire, England Clerk Railway * Mary J Wells Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Yorkshire, England Dressmaker Emily A Wells Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Yorkshire, England Milliner Alfred Wells Son Single Male 12 1869 Yorkshire, England Scholar Louisa Wells Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Yorkshire, England Scholar -------------------------------
Is this 1881 census your family Frances? Can I ask why you don't think the William Wells/ Annie Louisa Hawkins marriage is correct?
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AustinQ
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12 Jun 2018 06:33 |
I had already posted that marriage above and another with father William, but Frances doesn't think they are correct- I'm not sure all the information has been looked at though.
Again for ref:
Marriage: Father listed as William
name(s) William Wells (confectioner) Age 22 Marriage date 1882 Marriage place York Father's name(s) William Wells (brush maker) Spouse's name(s) Amy Poole Spouse's age 19 Spouse's birth date 1863 Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Poole Residence York, Yorkshire, England
Above marriage not correct- that is for this William:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Long Close Lane, St George, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
William Wells Head Married Male 62 1819 York, Yorkshire, Brush Maker Eliza Wells Wife Married Female 63 1818 York, Yorkshire, England William Wells Son Single Male 20 1861 York, Yorkshire, England Confectioner ----------------------------
Marriage: father listed as William (transcription- can't see original- but see census below- it seems to fit)
name(s) William Wells Age 23 Marriage date 25 Jun 1883 Marriage place York Father's name(s) William Wells Spouse's name(s) Annie Louisa Hawkins Spouse's birth date 1865 Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Hawkins Residence York, York, England
Census for above couple:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Severns Street, Acomb, Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
William Wells Head Married Male 31 1860 Yorkshire, England Railway Clerk * Annie L Wells Wife Married Female 26 1865 Yorkshire, England -------------------------
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Poplars, Dringhouse the Moor, Dringhouses Without (York Wr), York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
William Wells Head Married Male 41 1860 York, Yorkshire, England Clerk * Annie Louisa Wells Wife Married Female 36 1865 Barugh, Yorkshire, Thomas Howkins Father-In-Law Married Male 63 1838 Yorkshire, Living On Means Mary Anna Howkins Mother-In-Law Married Female 60 1841 Pontefract, Yorkshire,
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ArgyllGran
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11 Jun 2018 18:08 |
Of course, there's also this marriage:
William Wells in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 Name: William Wells Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1860 Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1882 Marriage Place: York, Yorkshire, England Father: William Wells Spouse: Amy Poole
William Wells in the 1891 England Census Name: William Wells Gender: Male Age: 30 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1861 Spouse: Amy Wells Child: Beatrice A Wells Eliza C Wells Elizabeth A Wells William Wells Walter Wells Birth Place: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: St George Residence Place: St George, Yorkshire, England Sub registration district: Walmgate ED, Institution or Vessel: 16 Neighbors: Piece: 3893 Folio: 36 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 30 Amy Wells 28 Beatrice A Wells 8 Eliza C Wells 6 Elizabeth A Wells 4 William Wells 3 Walter Wells 10/12
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ArgyllGran
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11 Jun 2018 18:00 |
Your William (if this is the right family) had left home by 1891. That would fit in with possibly having married in 1882:
Alfred Wells in the 1891 England Census Name: Alfred Wells Gender: Male Age: 2 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1889 [1869] Father: William Wells Mother: Mary Jane Wells Birth Place: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: St Lawrence Residence Place: York, St Lawrence, Yorkshire, England Sub registration district: Walmgate ED, Institution or Vessel: 22 Neighbors: Piece: 3893 Folio: 135 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 57 Mary Jane Wells 55 Emily A Wells 24 Alfred Wells 2 Louisa Wells 20
Have you found your William in 1891?
Is there any reason why he could not be the one who married Annie Taylor?
EDIT: Oh yes, I see Annie's husband's father was Daniel.
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11 Jun 2018 17:59 |
William Wells in the 1881 England Census Name: William Wells Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Wells Mother: Mary J. Wells Gender: Male Where born: New Fulford, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 12 Whitby Ter Occupation: Clerk Railway Registration district: York ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: Piece: 4726 Folio: 13 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 47 Mary J. Wells 45 William Wells 21 Mary J. Wells 19 Emily A. Wells 14 Alfred Wells 12 Louisa Wells 10
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ArgyllGran
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11 Jun 2018 17:57 |
Is this your family? (1861 already posted by Andy)
William Wells in the 1871 England Census Name: William Wells Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary J Wells Gender: Male Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Gate Fulford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 275 Piece: 4753 Folio: 51 Page Number: 46 Household Members: Name Age William Wells 38 Mary J Wells 36 Walter Wells 16 William Wells 11 Mary J Wells 9 Emily L Wells 4 Alfred Wells 2 Louisa Wells 10 Months
But you said nothing suggested was your family ? Or have I misunderstood?
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Frances
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11 Jun 2018 17:30 |
Sorry guys but none of your offerings seem to match my family and for ArgyllGran I can tell you that the main family line is through the eldest of William 1833's children, my grandfather, Walter 1854
Thanks for all your efforts, Frances
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ArgyllGran
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11 Jun 2018 17:18 |
How did you find your William's YOB of c1860?
Who was his brother in your main line?
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AustinQ
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11 Jun 2018 16:40 |
Marriage: Father listed as William
name(s) William Wells (confectioner) Age 22 Marriage date 1882 Marriage place York Father's name(s) William Wells (brush maker) Spouse's name(s) Amy Poole Spouse's age 19 Spouse's birth date 1863 Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Poole Residence York, Yorkshire, England ----------------------------
Marriage: father listed as William (transcription- can't see original)
name(s) William Wells Age 23 Marriage date 25 Jun 1883 Marriage place York Father's name(s) William Wells Spouse's name(s) Annie Louisa Hawkins Spouse's birth date 1865 Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Hawkins Residence York, York, England
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AustinQ
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11 Jun 2018 16:38 |
Marriage: Father listed as Daniel
name(s) William Wells Age 23 Birth year 1859 Residence Redness ST Marriage year 1882 Marriage date 06 Mar 1882 Marriage place York, St Cuthbert Spouse's name(s) Annie Elizabeth Taylor Spouse's age 21 Spouse's residence Warwick St Father's name(s) Daniel Wells Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Taylor County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)
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Maddie
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11 Jun 2018 14:46 |
WELLS, WILLIAM LAWYER Order ( Sawyer ???) GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 40
WELLS, WILLIAM HODGSON Order GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 33
1861 2, Redeness Street, St Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Daniel Wells Head Married Male 33 1828 Joiner Durham, England Transcription Mary A Wells Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas Wells Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Wells Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Yorkshire, England Transcription Sarah Wells Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Yorkshire, England Transcription William Wells Son - Male 1 1860 - Yorkshire, England
William Last name Wells Baptism year 1860 Birth year - County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York) Country England Baptism place York, St Cuthbert Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Father's first name(s) Daniel Baptism date 23 Dec 1860
Name: Daniel Wells Registration Year: 1852 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: York Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 38 Records on Page: Name Mary Ann Sawyer
so rules out the sawyer birt
WILLIAM Last name WELLS Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1854 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people Mary Jane Hodgson, Elizabeth Housham
goes with the above posted census by Andrew
and this WILLIAM Last name WELLS Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1848 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people Mary Dixon, Frances Andrews, Eliza Perry District York District number - County Yorkshire Country England Volume 23 Volume as transcribed 23 Page number 603
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