Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
Duncan
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 11:15 |
I am trying to trace my mother's ancestors, can't find anything of her father Joseph Shields 1880-1890 or her mother Annie Hyndes 9/10/1886 Renfrewshire Scotland. May have been born in Port Glasgow or Greenock. Definitely lived in Greenock, Duncan Street I think.
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 11:52 |
Welcome to the boards Duncan. This is the best website for Scottish records -https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records
You register but it's not a subscription site. Initial searches can be made for free and then you buy credits to allow you to look at full records - 30 credits for £7.50 6 credits gets you to the records for bmd and full census.
Births over 100 years ago, marriages 75 years and deaths 50 years - you will be able to look at the actual certificate and download. Whilst census transcripts are available on commercial sites such as Ancestry and Find My Past (and therefore GR) 1841-1901, only SP has the originals and the 1911 census.
If you find the marriage for your grandparents then that will name both their parents and where and when they married and also (hopefully) give accurate ages
Do you know anything more at all about your relatives. Death certificates will give ages and names of parents if known to informants.
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 11:58 |
?? Marriage was 1886
Surname SHIELDS Forename JOSEPH Spouse Surname HYNDS Spouse Forename ANNIE Year 1886 Ref574/ 46 RD NamePort Glasgow
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:13 |
?? 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 13, Ardgowan Street, Port-Glasgow, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Joseph Shields Head Married Male 35 1866 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Labourer In Shipyard Annie Shields Wife Married Female 35 1866 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland - Agnes Shields Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Message Girl In Ropework Sarah Shields Daughter - Female 12 1889 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Scholar James Shields Son - Male 7 1894 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Joseph Shields Son - Male 1 1900 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:13 |
What's your mother's name, Duncan ?
???
Joseph Shields in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: Joseph Shields Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Annie Shields Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 574 Registration district: Port Glasgow Civil Parish: Port Glasgow County: Renfrewshire Address: 13 Ardgowan Street Occupation: Labourer In Shipyard ED: 16 Household schedule number: 64 LINE: 18 Roll: CSSCT1901_213 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Shields 35 Annie Shields 35 Agnes Shields 14 Sarah Shields 12 James Shields 7 Joseph Shields 1 Jane Delarey 78 - lodger, Ireland
|
|
Maddie
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:17 |
a maybe Joseph Shields Gender Male Birth Date 13 Mar 1866 Birthplace MILTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name James Shields Mother's Name Nancy Mcfadyen Citing this Record
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch
|
|
Duncan
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:17 |
Both Joseph and Annie were born 1866 according to 1911 census, there were two children at that time Joseph who was 13 and my mother Annie 7. The Hynds came from Ireland, Annie was a first generation born in Port Glasgow
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:19 |
Possible birth for Annie.
First name(s) Annie Last name Hynds Gender Female Birth year 1865 Birth place Middle or New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland Father's first name(s) James Father's last name Hynds Mother's first name(s) Sarah Mother's last name Haddow Place Greenock County Renfrewshire
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print Start free family tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer Transcription Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland - Transcription Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker Transcription James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Transcription Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer Transcription Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland -
|
|
ErikaH
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:20 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer Transcription Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland - Transcription Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker Transcription James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Transcription Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer Transcription Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:21 |
?? Surname HYNDS Forename ANNIE Gender F Year 1866 Ref564/2 18 RD Name Greenock East
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:24 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland - Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland -
|
|
alviegal
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:25 |
Her family without her?
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ardgowan Street, East Greenock, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Hynds Head Married Male 67 1824 Ireland Labourer In Shipyard Transcription Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 66 1825 Ireland Wife Transcription Mary Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 35 1856 Ireland Servant Domestic Transcription James Dick Son - Male 2 1889 Renfrewshire, Scotland - Transcription Joseph Hardie Grand Son - Male 8 1883 Ireland Scholar
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Ardgowan Street, Port-Glasgow, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Learn more Print Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Hinds Head Widower Male 75 1826 England Gatekeeper Transcription James Dick Son-In-Law Married Male 47 1854 Arbroath, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Machine Oiler In Shipyard Transcription Mary Hinds Daughter Married Female 44 1857 Ireland - Transcription James Dick Grandson Single Male 12 1889 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Transcription Joseph Hardie Nephew Single Male 18 1883 Ireland Labourer In Shipyard Transcription Rosina McSloy Boarder Single Female 26 1875 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Millworker In Ropework
Same street as the Shields lived on.
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:25 |
Looks like we agree on the likely 1881 census !! Much easier to find things Duncan with correct dates. Your OP suggests Joseph and Annie were born mid 1880's rather than married then
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:25 |
Further to Greyghost's advice about what info you will find on Joseph & Annie's marriage cert -
Although 30 credits is the minimum you can buy, it will only cost you 6 credits to view / print the image of the original cert . Plenty left over to view other documents.
Possibly Agnes's birth:
SHIELDS AGNES F 1886 564/2 617 Greenock East
Two possibilities for James's birth:
SHIELDS JAMES M 1893 574/ 152 Port Glasgow
SHIELDS JAMES M 1893 574/ 195 Port Glasgow
Possibly Joseph junior's birth:
SHIELDS JOSEPH M 1899 574/ 195 Port Glasgow
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:29 |
???
James Shields in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: James Shields Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1893 Birth Place: Renfrewshire, Scotland Age: 20 Document Year: 1913 Regimental Number: 833 Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation Number of Images: 5 Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier James Shields Self (Head) Joseph Shields Father
Address: 26 Market St, Greenock.
Discharged 1915 because of being found medically unfit. [No explanation given]
|
|
Duncan
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 12:45 |
Thanks people, I am completely overwhelmed from the response of so many who obviously know what they are doing. I have just started this journey and appreciate the information posted by all you kind people. My mothers name was Annie Mitchell nee Shields. Regards, Duncan Mmitchell
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 13:03 |
Is this the family in 1911? All on same reference. As said, can't look at actual census for more detail
Reference 564/1 5/ 17 Reg. district Greenock East, Renfrew
Surname Forename Year Gender Age at Census
SHIELDS ANNIE 1911 F 7 SHIELDS JOSEPH 1911 M 45 SHIELDS ANNIE 1911 F 45 SHIELDS JOSEPH 1911 M 13
|
|
greyghost
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 13:21 |
?? SHIELDS JOSEPH Tenant HOUSE 49 ADAMSON BUILDINGS ARDGOWAN STREET PORT GLASGOW 1892 VR007100018-
SHIELDS JOSEPH Tenant HOUSE 49 ARDGOWAN STREET PORT GLASGOW 1893 VR007100018-
SHIELDS JOSEPH Tenant HOUSE ARDGOWAN STREET PORT GLASGOW 1894 VR007100018-
?? SHIELDS JOSEPH Tenant Occupier HOUSE 7 ROPEWORK LANE PORT GLASGOW 1895 VR007100018-
A James Hynds is at No. 48 in 1892, haven't looked at images for other years
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 13:30 |
Probably Joseph's death:
SHIELDS JOSEPH 69 1935 564/2 434 Greenock West
Another 6 credits would let you see the document to confirm.
|
|
rootgatherer
|
Report
|
8 Jun 2018 14:23 |
Not seeing deaths for Annie Hynds parents but she did have another sister who died in infancy.
HYNDS ELIZABETH 0 HADDOW. <<<<< mother's maiden surname 1865 564/2 39 Greenock East
|