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Joseph Shields Renfrewshire Scotland

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Duncan

Duncan Report 8 Jun 2018 11:15

I am trying to trace my mother's ancestors, can't find anything of her father Joseph Shields 1880-1890 or her mother Annie Hyndes 9/10/1886 Renfrewshire Scotland.
May have been born in Port Glasgow or Greenock. Definitely lived in Greenock, Duncan Street I think.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 11:52

Welcome to the boards Duncan.
This is the best website for Scottish records -https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

You register but it's not a subscription site. Initial searches can be made for free and then you buy credits to allow you to look at full records - 30 credits for £7.50
6 credits gets you to the records for bmd and full census.

Births over 100 years ago, marriages 75 years and deaths 50 years - you will be able to look at the actual certificate and download. Whilst census transcripts are available on commercial sites such as Ancestry and Find My Past (and therefore GR) 1841-1901, only SP has the originals and the 1911 census.

If you find the marriage for your grandparents then that will name both their parents and where and when they married and also (hopefully) give accurate ages

Do you know anything more at all about your relatives. Death certificates will give ages and names of parents if known to informants.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 11:58

?? Marriage was 1886

Surname SHIELDS
Forename JOSEPH
Spouse Surname HYNDS
Spouse Forename ANNIE
Year 1886
Ref574/ 46
RD NamePort Glasgow

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 12:13

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
13, Ardgowan Street, Port-Glasgow, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joseph Shields Head Married Male 35 1866 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Labourer In Shipyard
Annie Shields Wife Married Female 35 1866 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland -
Agnes Shields Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Message Girl In Ropework
Sarah Shields Daughter - Female 12 1889 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Scholar
James Shields Son - Male 7 1894 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar
Joseph Shields Son - Male 1 1900 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jun 2018 12:13

What's your mother's name, Duncan ?


???

Joseph Shields
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Joseph Shields
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie Shields
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 574
Registration district: Port Glasgow
Civil Parish: Port Glasgow
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 13 Ardgowan Street
Occupation: Labourer In Shipyard
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 64
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_213
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shields 35
Annie Shields 35
Agnes Shields 14
Sarah Shields 12
James Shields 7
Joseph Shields 1
Jane Delarey 78 - lodger, Ireland

Maddie

Maddie Report 8 Jun 2018 12:17

a maybe
Joseph Shields
Gender Male
Birth Date 13 Mar 1866
Birthplace MILTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Shields
Mother's Name Nancy Mcfadyen
Citing this Record

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch

Duncan

Duncan Report 8 Jun 2018 12:17

Both Joseph and Annie were born 1866 according to 1911 census, there were two children at that time Joseph who was 13 and my mother Annie 7. The Hynds came from Ireland, Annie was a first generation born in Port Glasgow

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2018 12:19

Possible birth for Annie.

First name(s) Annie
Last name Hynds
Gender Female
Birth year 1865
Birth place Middle or New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Hynds
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
Mother's last name Haddow
Place Greenock
County Renfrewshire



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer
Transcription
Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland -
Transcription
Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker
Transcription
James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar
Transcription
Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer
Transcription
Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jun 2018 12:20

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland

James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer Transcription
Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland - Transcription
Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker Transcription
James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar Transcription
Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer Transcription
Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 12:21

??
Surname HYNDS
Forename ANNIE
Gender F
Year 1866
Ref564/2 18
RD Name Greenock East

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 12:24

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Chapelton Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Hynds Head Married Male 56 1825 Ireland Saw Mill Labourer
Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 56 1825 Ireland -
Ann Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1867 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Flax Worker
James Hynds Son - Male 12 1869 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar
Henry Hagan Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1853 Ireland Ship Yard Labourer
Mary Hagan Daughter Married Female 21 1860 Ireland -

alviegal

alviegal Report 8 Jun 2018 12:25

Her family without her?


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ardgowan Street, East Greenock, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Hynds Head Married Male 67 1824 Ireland Labourer In Shipyard
Transcription
Sarah Hynds Wife Married Female 66 1825 Ireland Wife
Transcription
Mary Hynds Daughter Unmarried Female 35 1856 Ireland Servant Domestic
Transcription
James Dick Son - Male 2 1889 Renfrewshire, Scotland -
Transcription
Joseph Hardie Grand Son - Male 8 1883 Ireland Scholar




1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Ardgowan Street, Port-Glasgow, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Hinds Head Widower Male 75 1826 England Gatekeeper
Transcription
James Dick Son-In-Law Married Male 47 1854 Arbroath, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Machine Oiler In Shipyard
Transcription
Mary Hinds Daughter Married Female 44 1857 Ireland -
Transcription
James Dick Grandson Single Male 12 1889 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Scholar
Transcription
Joseph Hardie Nephew Single Male 18 1883 Ireland Labourer In Shipyard
Transcription
Rosina McSloy Boarder Single Female 26 1875 Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Millworker In Ropework


Same street as the Shields lived on.

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 12:25

Looks like we agree on the likely 1881 census !! Much easier to find things Duncan with correct dates. Your OP suggests Joseph and Annie were born mid 1880's rather than married then

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jun 2018 12:25

Further to Greyghost's advice about what info you will find on Joseph & Annie's marriage cert -

Although 30 credits is the minimum you can buy, it will only cost you 6 credits to view / print the image of the original cert .
Plenty left over to view other documents.

Possibly Agnes's birth:

SHIELDS
AGNES
F
1886
564/2 617
Greenock East


Two possibilities for James's birth:

SHIELDS
JAMES
M
1893
574/ 152
Port Glasgow


SHIELDS
JAMES
M
1893
574/ 195
Port Glasgow


Possibly Joseph junior's birth:

SHIELDS
JOSEPH
M
1899
574/ 195
Port Glasgow

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jun 2018 12:29

???

James Shields
in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: James Shields
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1893
Birth Place: Renfrewshire, Scotland
Age: 20
Document Year: 1913
Regimental Number: 833
Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
Number of Images: 5
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
James Shields Self (Head)
Joseph Shields Father

Address: 26 Market St, Greenock.

Discharged 1915 because of being found medically unfit. [No explanation given]

Duncan

Duncan Report 8 Jun 2018 12:45

Thanks people, I am completely overwhelmed from the response of so many who obviously know what they are doing. I have just started this journey and appreciate the information posted by all you kind people.
My mothers name was Annie Mitchell nee Shields.
Regards,
Duncan Mmitchell

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 13:03

Is this the family in 1911? All on same reference. As said, can't look at actual census for more detail

Reference 564/1 5/ 17
Reg. district Greenock East, Renfrew

Surname Forename Year Gender Age at Census

SHIELDS ANNIE 1911 F 7
SHIELDS JOSEPH 1911 M 45
SHIELDS ANNIE 1911 F 45
SHIELDS JOSEPH 1911 M 13

greyghost

greyghost Report 8 Jun 2018 13:21

??
SHIELDS
JOSEPH
Tenant
HOUSE 49 ADAMSON BUILDINGS ARDGOWAN STREET
PORT GLASGOW
1892
VR007100018-

SHIELDS
JOSEPH
Tenant
HOUSE 49 ARDGOWAN STREET
PORT GLASGOW
1893
VR007100018-

SHIELDS
JOSEPH
Tenant
HOUSE ARDGOWAN STREET
PORT GLASGOW
1894
VR007100018-

??
SHIELDS
JOSEPH
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 7 ROPEWORK LANE
PORT GLASGOW
1895
VR007100018-

A James Hynds is at No. 48 in 1892, haven't looked at images for other years

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jun 2018 13:30

Probably Joseph's death:

SHIELDS
JOSEPH
69
1935
564/2 434
Greenock West

Another 6 credits would let you see the document to confirm.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Jun 2018 14:23

Not seeing deaths for Annie Hynds parents but she did have another sister who died in infancy.


HYNDS
ELIZABETH
0
HADDOW. <<<<< mother's maiden surname
1865
564/2 39
Greenock East