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Thanks, I think you could be right & that definitely looks like the burial.
Interesting, the other side of my family are the Rae's, also from the same region, and one of them married a Burt.
Small community I guess.

This could be the burial of Margaret Lister Anderson.

MARKINCH BURIALS 1799-1854

LISTER, MGT (66): spouse of David Anderson at Dysart Coal-hill; 6 Oct 1847; feet to Andrew Buist's stone


which could possibly be this couple living with a family of Burtts. I have edited out all the Burtt children.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Oar Mill Hill, Dysart, Fife, Scotland


Household Members
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
David Anderson Male 60 1781 Fife, Scotland
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Margaret Anderson Female 60 1781 Fife, Scotland
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David Burtt Male 40 1801 Fife, Scotland
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Hay Burtt Female 40 1801 Fife, Scotland

I think you're on to something there BR! Alexander and Helen also had a son, Henry Norman.


First name(s) Henry Norman
Last name Anderson
Gender Male
Birth year 1855
Birth place Dunfermline,Fife,Scotland
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Father's last name Anderson
Mother's first name(s) Helen
Mother's last name Thompson
Place Dunfermline


REPOSTING FROM PREVIOUS PAGE.

There are a few 'family' names being repeated.


1851 for the family? Alexander was an Engine Drawer in 1841.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Moor, 92, Auchterderran, Kirkaldy, Fife, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Helen Anderson Wife Married Female 39 1812 Wife Of Alex Anderson Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>Alexander Anderson Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Engineman Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>Euphemia Anderson Daughter - Female 15 1836 Servant Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>David Anderson Son - Male 14 1837 Scholar & To Coal Miner Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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James Anderson Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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John Anderson Son - Male 4 1847 - Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland
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Christina Anderson Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland
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David Dryburgh Lodger - Male 12 1839 Coal Miner Wemyss, Fife, Scotland

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Halbeath, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Anderson Head Married Male 51 1810 Coal Centractor Markinch, Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Wife Married Female 49 1812 - Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Fansy Knitter Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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Thomas Anderson Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
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>>Henry Anderson Son Unmarried Male 5 1856 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

I'm wondering if this family might be relevant.
There is a couple David Law Anderson & Margaret Lister who married in 1804 (Markinch) and had the following children:
Elizabeth (1805), James (1807), David (1812), John (1814), Euphemia (1816) & Henry Normand (1820). Henry Normand Anderson married Helen Witherhead, so I wonder if there is some connection there - maybe some misinformation on one of the certificates.

Thanks.

So this looks like Helen and siblings ( I know you say you've traced her family)

Surname Forename Parents/ Other Details Gender Date Parish Number Ref Parish Image View
THOMSON
HELEN
JAMES THOMSON/MARGARET PRATT FR310 (FR310)
F
07/03/1812
419/
10 468
Cults


THOMSON
ISABEL
JAMES THOMSON/MARGARET PRATT FR314 (FR314)
F
22/05/1814
419/
10 472
Cults


THOMSON
MARGARET
JAMES THOMSON/MARGARET PRATT FR300 (FR300)
F
06/12/1807
419/
10 458
Cults


THOMSON
AGNES
JAMES THOMSON/MARGARET PRATT FR306 (FR306)
F
25/02/1810
419/
10 464
Cults


THOMSON
THOMAS
JAMES THOMSON/MARGARET PRATT FR318 (FR318)
M
02/08/1816
419/
10 476
Cults

Helen Thomson's death certificate says
"4 August 1872, Helen Anderson, wife of Alexander Anderson, Engineman died in Dunfermline, aged 60, daughter of James Thomson (farmer) and Margaret Thomson nee Pratt

The marriage certificate says
"8 January 1831 Alexander Anderson (weaver) of this parish (Dysart) son of David A. in Borland and Helen Thomson of this parish daughter of James Thomson in Gallowton were contracted and after this married.

So I feel pretty sure he was a weaver in 1831 but changed to a miner. Confusing because there seem to be 3 Alexander Anderson's in this region at this time - 1 who married Helen Thomson, another married Helen Hepburn and another married Anne Leighton.

Here is it, Alexander Anderson's death Certificate says
"Alexander Anderson, Colliery Engine Keeper, widower of Helen Thomson,died 10 October 1875 at Dunfermline. Son of David Anderson (deceased), school master, and Helen Anderson nee Witherhead (deceased). Witness was John Anderson (son)

David Anderson was a 'school master'. I'll have to check which document I have seen that on, but I'm pretty sure it said his name was David L. Anderson from Borland (which is a Hamlet in Fife).
I'm pretty sure the Helen Hepburn / Alex Anderson is a different family, which makes it confusing.

Right, this appears to be the 1841 for Helen Hepburn/ Anderson so a different person altogether. Her husband was a mariner.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mid Street, Dysart, Fife, Scotland

- Anderson Female 35 1806 Fife, Scotland

Janet Anderson Female 11 1830 Fife, Scotland

Betty Anderson Female 9 1832 Fife, Scotland

William Anderson Male 4 1837 Fife, Scotland

Alexander Anderson Male 2 1839 Fife, Scotland

Nk Anderson Female 0 1841 Fife, Scotland

Possible burial for a child of your Alexander.

8 Nov 1834

ANDERSON: still-born child of Alexr Anderson, weaver in Dysart;

??? These appear to be the children in the 1851 census I posted?


First name(s) Christian
Last name Anderson
Gender Female
Birth year 1851
Birth place -
Baptism year 1851
Baptism date 23 Mar 1851
Baptism place KIRKCALDY,FIFE,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Father's last name Anderson
Mother's first name(s) Helen
Mother's last name Hepburn
Place Kirkcaldy


Helen
Last name Anderson
Gender Female
Birth year 1844
Birth place Dysart,Fife,Scotland
Baptism year -
Baptism date -
Baptism place -
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Father's last name Anderson
Mother's first name(s) Helen
Mother's last name Hepburn
Place Dysart
County Fife


and the marriage of the parents?

Helen
Last name Hepburn
Marriage year 1828
Marriage date 01 Jun 1828
Marriage place Abbotshall,Fife,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Alexander
Spouse's last name Anderson
Place Abbotshall
County Fife

Just reread your opening post. You say Alexander was a weaver? The one in the 1841 and 1851 worked in the coalmines so this possibly is not the correct family? What was his occupation on his death certificate please? He could possibly have gone into mining as weaving did not pay much.

DYSART ST DENIS LAIR REGISTERS, 1795-1861.

Burial of the first son James, b 1841?

ANDERSON, JAMES: son of Alexander Anderson, engine-man at

Dysart Colliery; 25 Sep 1841



and daughter, Agnes.


ANDERSON, AGNES: dau of Alexander Anderson, engine-man at

Dysart Colliery; 6 Sep 1843


Do you know the occupation of Alexander's father, David?

1851 for the family? Alexander was an Engine Drawer in 1841.


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Moor, 92, Auchterderran, Kirkaldy, Fife, Scotland


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Helen Anderson Wife Married Female 39 1812 Wife Of Alex Anderson Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>Alexander Anderson Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Engineman Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>Euphemia Anderson Daughter - Female 15 1836 Servant Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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>>David Anderson Son - Male 14 1837 Scholar & To Coal Miner Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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James Anderson Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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John Anderson Son - Male 4 1847 - Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland
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Christina Anderson Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland
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David Dryburgh Lodger - Male 12 1839 Coal Miner Wemyss, Fife, Scotland

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Halbeath, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Alexander Anderson Head Married Male 51 1810 Coal Centractor Markinch, Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Wife Married Female 49 1812 - Fife, Scotland
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Helen Anderson Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1844 Fansy Knitter Dysart, Fife, Scotland
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Thomas Anderson Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
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Henry Anderson Son Unmarried Male 5 1856 Scholar Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland

Not that it helps with your initial request but if this is daughter Euphemia's marriage, it will give the date and place of her birth. As the marriage took place in the first year of statutory registration it has more information. It might hep a little as christening records haven't been found for all the children on the 1841 census.


Euphemia
Last name Anderson
Marriage year 1855
Marriage date 15 Jan 1855
Marriage place Dunfermline,Fife,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Campbell
Place Dunfermline
County Fife
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

Did Alexander's death certificate give an occupation for his father David please?

I've tried every variation of Helen Witherhead that I can I think of. It seems very strange I can't find a record of any David Anderson marred to Helen Witherhead, even though the documentation seems pretty certain these are the parents.

Thanks, sorry I had to go to bed and missed the messages.

It's strange that Margaret Anderson is the only child we can find of Alexander Anderson & Helen Thomson and yet there are many children listed in the 1841 census listed by rootgatherer (I agree rootgatherer that this is the right family).

I had noticed too, that the family names are not the usual pattern of naming children for the parents & grandparents.

Definitely something I'm missing here.

Helen Thomson did have a sister called Agnes Thomson, born 1810.

Is this the connection - the Anderson children and Davidson children are cousins with their Mothers being sisters? It's late, this is as far as I've got.

Surname Forename Spouse Name Date Parish Number Ref Parish
ANDERSON ALEXANDER HELEN THOMSON/ 08/01/1831 426/70 53 Dysart

THOMSON AGNES ALEXANDER DAVIDSON/ 20/03/1830 426/70 47 Dysart

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Surname Forename Parents/ Other Details Gender Date Parish Number Ref Parish
DAVIDSON THOMAS ALEXANDER DAVIDSON/AGNES THOMSON M 18/07/1830 426/ 60 92
Dysart

DAVIDSON JANE ALEXANDER DAVIDSON/AGNES THOMSON F 24/07/1840 426/ 60 192
Dysart

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ANDERSON MARGARET ALEXANDER ANDERSON/HELEN THOMSON F 21/06/1833 426/60 122
Dysart

For our ref.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Balbiggie Coal Hill, Dysart, Fife, Scotland

Alexander Anderson Male 31 1810 Fife, Scotland
Helen Anderson Female 29 1812 Fife, Scotland
Alexander Anderson Male 9 1832 Fife, Scotland
Margaret Anderson Female 7 1834 Fife, Scotland
Euphemia Anderson Female 5 1836 Fife, Scotland
David Anderson Male 3 1838 Fife, Scotland
Agness Anderson Female 2 1839 Fife, Scotland
James Anderson Male 0 1841 Fife, Scotland
Thomas Davidson Male 10 1831 Fife, Scotland
Jean Davidson Female 1 1840 Fife, Scotland


Who were the parents of the Davidson children with Alexander and Helen in 1841?

It's a bit unusual that he had 3 daughters by 1841 and hadn't named any of them for his mother. Could it be that whoever was the informant on his death registration didn't know his mother's Christian name?