Thank you mnv .A lot of info. to absorb.Will go thro' it all and this will help a lot in my research for my friend. Most appreciated,Terry L
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Using https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCN-WTC
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHN-TC5 Event Place Middleton, Middleton Hartlepool, Durham, England County Durham Parish Middleton Sub-District Hartlepool Registration District Hartlepool Registration Number RG14 Piece 29657 Household schedule number 1 Andrew Hogg Head M 48 East Pilton Crammond Mid Lothian, Edinburgh FORGE FURNACEMAN Jeanie Hogg Wife F 38 Lenlithgowshire Ratho, Linlithgowshire Thomas Hogg Son M 19 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh Jeanie F Hogg Daughter F 14 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh Andrew Hogg Son M 12 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh William Ross Hogg Son F 6 West Hartlepool, Durham Harold H Hogg Son M 4 West Hartlepool, Durham [You can click on names for more info on each person - usually just occup and marital status, but for the wife in 1911, we also get: Years of Marriage: 16 ]
Using https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
HOGG, WILLIAM ROSS KNOWLES Order GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 170
HOGG, HAROLD HACKENSCHMIDT KNOWLES Order GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 168
1863 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB6-VD3 Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11679-1
1856 Jane https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQH5-S41 1859 Wmina https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQH5-W2K 1861 Thos https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB6-LHY 1863 And 1865 Joan https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQH5-WGS 1868 Jas https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB6-P4D 1871 Ag https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQH5-W8R 1873 Pete https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB6-GWR
1866 David https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7HG-K26
NB Ratho was in MLN, not WLN - it's where you tun off the M8 for the Forth bridge. I don't know what effect the county boundary changes of 1891 had in this area - they did move my dad's uncle's p.o.b. (near Fetterangus) from Banff to Aberdeen.
1872 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQWQ-VGS Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11698-1
1865 And https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB8-184 1866 Eliz https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ7Y-579 1868 Arch https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQPB-TX5 1870 Geo https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQF4-LH4 1872 Jean 1874 Thos https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB8-P86
1864 marr https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY7B-5VC
There are downloadable 1890s maps showing parishes on a Scottish county by county basis at: http://www.electricscotland.com/history/gazetteer/
Using https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=CANADA 1913 Jas https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDXP-W4S [with image link] I think Dome Mine was abt 200 km NE of Sudbury (which was 400km N of Toronto). I guess a 1913 ore mine is worked out by now.
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / London / 42 London / page 14 20 150 Listory Robert M Head M Aug 1892 28 21 150 Listory Labertha ? F Wife M Apr 1896 25 22 150 Listory John J L M Son S Oct 1906 4 23 150 Listory Thomas L. M Son S Mar 1910 1 24 150 Hogg Thomas M Boarder S Mar 1887 23 25 150 Hogg James M Boarder M Dec 1868 42 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002002079.pdf [Thos (moulder) immig 1910, Jas (blacksmith) in 1911] [Possinly Thos is James (and Andrew)'s nephew]
EDIT Fixed typo of Fhos for Thos
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Thank you for your replies.I will certainly look at them all more closely to help in my research. Terry L
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son james Name: Jas Hogg Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Son Father's name: Thomas Hogg Mother's name: Jessie Hogg Gender: Male Where born: Cramond, Midlothian Registration Number: 679 Registration district: Cramond Civil Parish: Cramond County: Midlothian Address: West Cottages ED: 1 Household schedule number: 144 LINE: 20 Roll: CSSCT1871_154 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hogg 39 Jessie Hogg 32 John Hogg 19 Wilhilmina Hogg 12 Thos Hogg 10 and Hogg 8 Daoiz Hogg 4 Jas Hogg 2 Jan Wenhart 70
James Hogg Event Type Death Event Date 15 Jul 1913 Event Place Tisdale Tp., Temiskaming Dist., Ontario Gender Male Age 44 Birthplace Edinburgh, Scotland Birth Year (Estimated) 1869 Father's Name Thomas Hogg Mother's Name Jessie Wishart Citing this Record
"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database
David Dudgeon Hogg Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: David Dudgeon Hogg Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Sep 1866 Birthplace: EDINBURGH PARISH,EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND Father's Name: Thomas Hogg Mother's Name: Jessie Wishart
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Thomas Knowles Spouse's Name Elizabeth Fleming Event Date 10 Jun 1864 Event Place Uphall,West Lothian,Scotland Citing this Record
"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910," database, FamilySearch
1861 Name: Thomas Hogg Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Jessie Hogg Gender: Male Where born: Warrew, pelkerkshire Registration Number: 679 Registration district: Cramond Civil Parish: Cramond County: Midlothian Address: Granton Mains Occupation: Ploughman ED: 1 Household schedule number: 182 LINE: 15 Roll: CSSCT1861_122 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hogg 29 Jessie Hogg 22 Jane Hogg 4 Williamina Hogg 2 Thomas Hogg 1 Mo Jane Wishart 60 ----------
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?????????? Name: Andrew Hogg Death Age: 74 Birth Date: abt 1864 Registration Date: Mar 1938 Registration district: Hartlepool Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 179
1881 Name: Andrew Hogg Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : James Hogg Gender: Male Where born: Cramond Registration Number: 692/1 Registration district: Leith North Civil Parish: Leith North Town: Leith County: Midlothian Address: 6 Victoria Place Occupation: Furnaceman ED: 20 Household schedule number: 253 LINE: 20 Roll: CSSCT1891_363 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Hogg 28 James Hogg 32 Elizabeth Hogg 7
Name: Andrew Hogg Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Mar 1863 Birth Place: Cramond,Midlothian,Scotland Father: Thomas Hogg Mother: Jessie Wishart FHL Film Number: 6035516
1871 Name: and Hogg [Andrew Hogg] Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relationship: Son Father's name: Thomas Hogg Mother's name: Jessie Hogg Gender: Male Where born: Cramond, Midlothian Registration Number: 679 Registration district: Cramond Civil Parish: Cramond County: Midlothian Address: West Cottages Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Household schedule number: 144 LINE: 18 Roll: CSSCT1871_154 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hogg 39 Jessie Hogg 32 John Hogg 19 Wilhilmina Hogg 12 Thos Hogg 10 and Hogg 8 Daoiz Hogg 4 Jas Hogg 2 Jan Wenhart 70
Name: Jeannie F Hogg Death Age: 63 Birth Date: abt 1872 Registration Date: Jun 1935 Registration district: Hartlepool Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 126
1911 Andrew Hogg Event Type Census Event Date 1911 Event Place Middleton, Middleton Hartlepool, Durham, England County Durham Parish Middleton Sub-District Hartlepool Registration District Hartlepool Gender Male Age 48 Marital Status (Original) MARRIED Occupation FORGE FURNACEMAN Birth Year (Estimated) 1863 Birthplace East Pilton Crammond Mid Lothian, Edinburgh Relationship to Head of Household Head Line 1 Page 1 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Andrew Hogg Head M 48 East Pilton Crammond Mid Lothian, Edinburgh Jeanie Hogg Wife F 38 Lenlithgowshire Ratho, Linlithgowshire Thomas Hogg Son M 19 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh Jeanie F Hogg Daughter F 14 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh Andrew Hogg Son M 12 Mid Lothian Leith Resident, Edinburgh William Ross Hogg Son F 6 West Hartlepool, Durham Harold H Hogg Son M 4 West Hartlepool, Durham Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch
Name: Jeanie Knowles Gender: Female Birth Date: 10 Feb 1872 Birth Place: Ratho,Midlothian,Scotland Father: Thomas Knowles Mother: Elisabeth Fleming FHL Film Number: 6035516
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Researching family for a friend I find Andrew Hogg,38, Wife,Jeannie,29 and children Elizabeth,11,Thomas,9,Jeannie,4 and Andrew,2,living at Cobden St.West Hartlepool. All are registered as born Scotland.Could anyone help in tracing the family before they came to West Hartlepool.? I found a tree on Ancestry relating to this family but they show Andrew dying earlier than the 1901 Census(above)seems to show. All help would be appreciated,Terry L.
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