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9 May 2018 09:48 |
Well done AustinQ for confirming that was the correct Andrew Baxter. I han't found those newspaper reports that you found to confirm his address.
I wondered if the Andrew on the valuation rolls was his son as sometimes a son is listed as head of household rather than the widow.
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9 May 2018 08:30 |
Just carrying on from the info AG found re births of children for James Gallagher and Jane Coyle.
They were indeed married in Ireland
I've downlaoded the image for the birth of John Gallagher born December 30th1860, parents: James Gallagher and Jane Coyle- living at New Stevenston, Bothwell (Holytown) James was a labourer at colliery. It also gives a marriage date of March 1844- it difficult to read, but it ends in Tyrone.
So likely marriage?:
First name(s) James Last name Gallagher Address - Marriage year 1844 Marriage date 19 Feb 1844 Parish Ardstraw West Alternative parish names Ardstraw West and Castlederg, Castlederg Diocese Derry Spouse's first name(s) Jane Spouse's last name Cayle County Tyrone Country Ireland
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9 May 2018 06:19 |
Certainly seems to be the correct death (even though an Andrew Baxter is listed on the valuation rolls at Parkfoot Terrace in 1920)
Kirkintilloch Gazette 11 January 1918
KILLED ABROAD A telegram received by Mrs Baxter, Parkfoot Terrace last week intimated that her husband, Andrew Baxter, has been killed on the railway at Boswell, USA. Details are lacking. Deceased, who emigrated about six years ago, was a miner with the Banknock Coal Company. He had two sons and a daughter.
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Kilsyth Chronicle 01 March 1918
LONGCROFT SOLDIER WINS THE MILITARY MEDAL
Official intimation is given that Private Thomas Baxter, A & SH, has been award the Military Medal... A son of Mrs Baxter, Parkfoot Longcroft, Tom has since winning the award been promoted to the rank of sergeant...In civil life he was a miner at Broomridge Colliery. His father was killed a few weeks ago in a railway accident in America.
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8 May 2018 22:18 |
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New York First name(s) A Last name Baxter Gender Male Age 56 Birth year 1860 Marital status M Occupation SLEET? <<<<<<<Electrician on image Departure year 1916 Departure day 16 Departure month 10 Departure port Glasgow Destination port New York Destination NEW YORK Country United States Destination country United States Ship name Tuscania Ship official number 137785 Ship master's first name P Ship master's last name MCLEAN Shipping line ANCHOR City GLASGOW Ship destination port NEW YORK Ship destination country USA Ship square feet 2898 Ship registered tonnage 8621 Number of passengers 159 Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from Great Britain, Scotland, United States, Americas Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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8 May 2018 22:07 |
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First name(s) Andrew Last name Baxter Sex Male Age 52y Birth year 1860 Nationality Britain, Scotch Residence Dewey Bankeade, Scotland Departure port Glasgow Arrival year 1912 Arrival place New York Ship name Caledonia Country United States NARA publication number M237 and T715 Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger lists Collections from Americas, United States
No image so can't check the residence but wondered if it was a mistranscription of Dennyloanhead.
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8 May 2018 22:02 |
Sorry that should have been 1917
IN ME MO 111 AM. BAXTER—In loving memory dear husband and ottr father, Andrew Baxter, who wa«i killed in America, 26th November, 1917. Six years have passed, and none cap tell The loss mat band loved well. Though land and sea divide the spot Where is 01 December 1923 - Falkirk Herald - Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Unfortunately it does name his wife or family members.
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8 May 2018 21:55 |
Did your Baxters live at Longcroft, Dennyloanhead? A short paragraph in The Falkirk Herald in 1918 tells of Anrew Baxter being killed by a train 25 November in Boswell U.S.A. He had emigrated 6 years previously and his wife still lived in Dennyloanhead.
Hmm..... let me check that out. Maybe not yours as it says his son had been serving with the colours for some time but of course that may have been Thomas his stepson.
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8 May 2018 21:05 |
Hi
Andrew Baxter was born in 1859 Slamannan Marriage and birth show the same parents Peter and Mary
I have now viewed all those Death certs none are correct parents
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8 May 2018 17:30 |
Probably the first on ArgyllGran as he gives his age as 50 on the 1911 census too.
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8 May 2018 17:11 |
If Andrew was born c1861 as indicated in the 1901 census posted earlier, his death wasn't registered in Stirlingshire.
There were six deaths of Andrew Baxters (born 1861 +/-3) in 1911-26;
1912 Dennistoun, 1915 Woodside, 1916 Larkhall, 1917 Galashiels, and two in 1926 George Square.
What's Andrew's age at his marriage to Lizzie?
EDIT:
One of these might be his birth:
BAXTER ANDREW M 1859 489/ 124 Slamannan
BAXTER ANDREW M 1865 489/ 105 Slamannan
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8 May 2018 16:08 |
Death of Andrew Baxter 1926 son of Andrew and Elizabeth Baxter Father Andrew Baxter is shown has deceased.
So Andrew died sometime between 1911 census and sons death 1926
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8 May 2018 16:02 |
Hi everyone thanks to all for your ongoing help.
Death Cert of Elizabeth Baxter 1946 widow of Andrew Baxter
This is the Elizabeth I am looking for Died 1946 parents are shown as Jennis / James Gallagher (Occ Labourer) deceased mother Jane Gallagher deceased 6 Park Ave, Dennyloanhead
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8 May 2018 08:39 |
The only possibility that I can think of is that James Gallagher died and Jane remarried a Mr. Russell and Elizabeth took her stepfather's name.
It's just a pity that the family can't be found on the 1861 or 1871 census. Not seeing a possible death for Jane using any combination of Gallagher / Russell / Coyle / Kyle.
My gut feeling is that that is your Elizabeth Russell listed on the 1881 census in Bridgeton with the occupation of Domestic Servant but can't find any of the possible siblings posted by ArgyllGran.
It is always possible that Elizabeth's parents return to Ireland and passed away there and then Elizabeth returned to Scotland (this happened with my own grandmother).
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8 May 2018 00:01 |
Hi I cannot see where the Gallagher family connection joins with the Russell name
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7 May 2018 23:51 |
Hi I found the marriage for James Gallagher and Jane Coyle 1844 Ardstraw West, Tyrone, Ireland
Certs I now have for Elizabeth Russell and family
1st Marriage 1882 David Allan & Lizzie Russell parents James Russell & Jane Kyle Death of David Allan 1891 Glasgow Son Thomas Allan Born 1884 Glasgow Marriage Thomas Baxter (Allan) Mary Forrester parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell Death 1965 Thomas Baxter (Allan) took stepfather Andrew Baxter's name parents David Allan Lizzie Russell
2nd Marriage 1892 Andrew Baxter & Lizzie Russell parents James Russell & Jane Kyle Son Andrew Baxter Born 1894 Muiravonside, Stirlingshire parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell Death 1926 Glasgow parents Andrew Baxter & Jane Gallagher Daugther Mary Baxter Born 1891 parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell Married 1911, John Buchanan parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell Death 1981 Larbert
Name: Andrew Baxter Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Lizzie Baxter Gender: Male Where born: Slamannan, stirlingshire Registration Number: 483 Registration district: Kilsyth Civil Parish: Kilsyth County: Stirlingshire Address: Banknock Rows Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 15A Household schedule number: 50 LINE: 24 Roll: CSSCT1901_160 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Baxter 40 Lizzie Baxter 40 Thomas Baxter 17 Mary Baxter 5 Andrew Baxter 6
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7 May 2018 20:53 |
Ah -
but Holytown is/was in Bothwell parish:
Per Wikipedia:
One old description of the town from the 19th century from the Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland by Francis H Groome, 1885 is as follows:
Holytown, a town in Bothwell parish, Lanarkshire, 1 mile E by N of Holytown Junction on the Caledonian railway, 5½ miles SSE of Coatbridge, and 11 ESE of Glasgow. Surrounded by a well-worked part of the Lanarkshire mineral-field, and partaking largely in the industry and traffic connected with the working of the same, it experienced considerable increase of prosperity from the opening of the Cleland and Midcalder railway (1866), in result partly of through traffic on that line and partly of junction-communication with Motherwell.
And also here:
http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/9.html
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7 May 2018 20:31 |
Is that what it says - widow of Andrew Baxter?
I don't understand the Gallagher/Russell thing.
However - Gallagher and Coyle are both Irish names - maybe they married there. Or didn't marry.
Coyle is certainly a likely variation of Kyle, or vice versa.
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Elizabeth Gallagher Scotland Births and Baptisms Name Elizabeth Gallagher Gender Female Birth Date 24 Dec 1858 Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name James Gallagher Mother's Name Jane Coyle
John Gallagher Scotland Births and Baptisms Name John Gallagher Gender Male Birth Date 30 Dec 1860 Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name James Gallagher Mother's Name Jane Coyle
William Gallagher Scotland Births and Baptisms Name William Gallagher Gender Male Birth Date 16 Jan 1857 Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name James Gallagher Mother's Name Jane Coyle
Thomas Gallagher Scotland Births and Baptisms Name Thomas Gallagher Gender Male Birth Date 25 Oct 1864 Birthplace DALZIEL,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's Name James Gallagher Mother's Name Jane Coil This one maybe too early?
This one too early ?:
James Gallagher in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915 Name: James Gallagher Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1847 Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1847 Baptism Place: Ardstraw West, Tyrone, Ireland Parish Variants: Ardstraw West and Castlederg, Castlederg Diocese: Derry Father: James Gallagher Mother: Jane Coyle .
I don't see that Bothwell family in 1861 - or any other census, for that matter. Neither as Gallagher nor as Russell.
But anyway, they were born in Bothwell, not Shotts.
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7 May 2018 20:08 |
Hi Strange I do believe this is our Lizzie Baxter deceased widow of Andrew Baxter
but it gives her parents as James Gallagher and Jane Coyle, not James Russell and Jane Kyle as per two of Lizzie's wedding certificates
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7 May 2018 19:32 |
Hi ArgyllGran
1946 death looks very good. Some interesting twists in the tail shown on this certificate.
Back in a min
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7 May 2018 19:05 |
In which case, if they continued living in that area, the Bonnybridge 1946 death for Elizabeth Baxter might be possible. Bonnybridge and Dennyloanhead are right next to each other.
And Larbert's not far away.
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