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Wild guesses at possibilities for their deaths, based on location only:

BAXTER
ELIZABETH
76
1934
655/1 7
Shotts (Middle District)

BAXTER
ELIZABETH
88
1946
473/ 16
Bonnybridge

BAXTER
ELIZABETH
75
1933
485/A 149
Larbert, Stirlingshire.

BAXTER
ELIZABETH
80
1941
472/ 6
Balfron, Stirlingshire.


BAXTER
ANDREW
49
1910
481/B3 24
Polmont, Stirlingshire


BAXTER
ANDREW
73
1933
655/3 26
Shotts (Western District)


Do the children's marriage certs say if either parent was deceased or not?

Hi
1911 census Andrew Russell and wife Lizzie are living wife their children in Parkfoot Terrace, Dennyloanhead, Stirlingshire.

Ian

In which case, if they continued living in that area, the Bonnybridge 1946 death for Elizabeth Baxter might be possible.
Bonnybridge and Dennyloanhead are right next to each other.

And Larbert's not far away.

Hi ArgyllGran

1946 death looks very good. Some interesting twists in the tail shown on this certificate.

Back in a min

Ian

Hi
Strange I do believe this is our Lizzie Baxter deceased widow of Andrew Baxter

but it gives her parents as James Gallagher and Jane Coyle, not James Russell and Jane Kyle as per two of Lizzie's wedding certificates

Is that what it says - widow of Andrew Baxter?

I don't understand the Gallagher/Russell thing.

However -
Gallagher and Coyle are both Irish names - maybe they married there.
Or didn't marry.

Coyle is certainly a likely variation of Kyle, or vice versa.


???

Elizabeth Gallagher
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name Elizabeth Gallagher
Gender Female
Birth Date 24 Dec 1858
Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Gallagher
Mother's Name Jane Coyle


John Gallagher
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name John Gallagher
Gender Male
Birth Date 30 Dec 1860
Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Gallagher
Mother's Name Jane Coyle


William Gallagher
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name William Gallagher
Gender Male
Birth Date 16 Jan 1857
Birthplace BOTHWELL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Gallagher
Mother's Name Jane Coyle


Thomas Gallagher
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name Thomas Gallagher
Gender Male
Birth Date 25 Oct 1864
Birthplace DALZIEL,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name James Gallagher
Mother's Name Jane Coil
This one maybe too early?

This one too early ?:

James Gallagher
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: James Gallagher
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1847
Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1847
Baptism Place: Ardstraw West, Tyrone, Ireland
Parish Variants: Ardstraw West and Castlederg, Castlederg
Diocese: Derry
Father: James Gallagher
Mother: Jane Coyle .


I don't see that Bothwell family in 1861 - or any other census, for that matter.
Neither as Gallagher nor as Russell.

But anyway, they were born in Bothwell, not Shotts.

Ah -

but Holytown is/was in Bothwell parish:

Per Wikipedia:

One old description of the town from the 19th century from the Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland by Francis H Groome, 1885 is as follows:

Holytown, a town in Bothwell parish, Lanarkshire, 1 mile E by N of Holytown Junction on the Caledonian railway, 5½ miles SSE of Coatbridge, and 11 ESE of Glasgow. Surrounded by a well-worked part of the Lanarkshire mineral-field, and partaking largely in the industry and traffic connected with the working of the same, it experienced considerable increase of prosperity from the opening of the Cleland and Midcalder railway (1866), in result partly of through traffic on that line and partly of junction-communication with Motherwell.


And also here:

http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/9.html

Hi
I found the marriage for James Gallagher and Jane Coyle
1844 Ardstraw West, Tyrone, Ireland

Certs I now have for Elizabeth Russell and family

1st Marriage 1882 David Allan & Lizzie Russell parents James Russell & Jane Kyle
Death of David Allan 1891 Glasgow
Son Thomas Allan Born 1884 Glasgow
Marriage Thomas Baxter (Allan) Mary Forrester parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell
Death 1965 Thomas Baxter (Allan) took stepfather Andrew Baxter's name parents
David Allan Lizzie Russell

2nd Marriage 1892 Andrew Baxter & Lizzie Russell parents James Russell & Jane Kyle
Son Andrew Baxter Born 1894 Muiravonside, Stirlingshire parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell
Death 1926 Glasgow parents Andrew Baxter & Jane Gallagher
Daugther Mary Baxter Born 1891 parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell
Married 1911, John Buchanan parents Andrew Baxter & Elizabeth Russell
Death 1981 Larbert

Name: Andrew Baxter
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Lizzie Baxter
Gender: Male
Where born: Slamannan, stirlingshire
Registration Number: 483
Registration district: Kilsyth
Civil Parish: Kilsyth
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Banknock Rows
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 15A
Household schedule number: 50
LINE: 24
Roll: CSSCT1901_160
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Baxter 40
Lizzie Baxter 40
Thomas Baxter 17
Mary Baxter 5
Andrew Baxter 6

Hi
I cannot see where the Gallagher family connection joins with the Russell name

Ian

The only possibility that I can think of is that James Gallagher died and Jane remarried a Mr. Russell and Elizabeth took her stepfather's name.

It's just a pity that the family can't be found on the 1861 or 1871 census. Not seeing a possible death for Jane using any combination of Gallagher / Russell / Coyle / Kyle.

My gut feeling is that that is your Elizabeth Russell listed on the 1881 census in Bridgeton with the occupation of Domestic Servant but can't find any of the possible siblings posted by ArgyllGran.

It is always possible that Elizabeth's parents return to Ireland and passed away there and then Elizabeth returned to Scotland (this happened with my own grandmother).

Hi everyone thanks to all for your ongoing help.

Death Cert of Elizabeth Baxter 1946 widow of Andrew Baxter

This is the Elizabeth I am looking for
Died 1946 parents are shown as Jennis / James Gallagher (Occ Labourer) deceased mother Jane Gallagher deceased
6 Park Ave, Dennyloanhead

Ian

Death of Andrew Baxter 1926 son of Andrew and Elizabeth Baxter
Father Andrew Baxter is shown has deceased.

So Andrew died sometime between 1911 census and sons death 1926

Ian

If Andrew was born c1861 as indicated in the 1901 census posted earlier, his death wasn't registered in Stirlingshire.

There were six deaths of Andrew Baxters (born 1861 +/-3) in 1911-26;

1912 Dennistoun, 1915 Woodside, 1916 Larkhall, 1917 Galashiels, and two in 1926 George Square.

What's Andrew's age at his marriage to Lizzie?

EDIT:

One of these might be his birth:

BAXTER
ANDREW
M
1859
489/ 124
Slamannan

BAXTER
ANDREW
M
1865
489/ 105
Slamannan

Probably the first on ArgyllGran as he gives his age as 50 on the 1911 census too.

Hi

Andrew Baxter was born in 1859 Slamannan Marriage and birth show the same parents Peter and Mary

I have now viewed all those Death certs none are correct parents

Ian

Did your Baxters live at Longcroft, Dennyloanhead? A short paragraph in The Falkirk Herald in 1918 tells of Anrew Baxter being killed by a train 25 November in Boswell U.S.A. He had emigrated 6 years previously and his wife still lived in Dennyloanhead.

Hmm..... let me check that out. Maybe not yours as it says his son had been serving with the colours for some time but of course that may have been Thomas his stepson.

Sorry that should have been 1917

IN ME MO 111 AM.
BAXTER—In loving memory dear husband and ottr father, Andrew Baxter, who wa«i killed in America, 26th November, 1917. Six years have passed, and none cap tell The loss mat band loved well. Though land and sea divide the spot Where is
01 December 1923 - Falkirk Herald - Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland



Unfortunately it does name his wife or family members.

????



First name(s) Andrew
Last name Baxter
Sex Male
Age 52y
Birth year 1860
Nationality Britain, Scotch
Residence Dewey Bankeade, Scotland
Departure port Glasgow
Arrival year 1912
Arrival place New York
Ship name Caledonia
Country United States
NARA publication number M237 and T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Americas, United States



No image so can't check the residence but wondered if it was a mistranscription of Dennyloanhead.

???

New York
First name(s) A
Last name Baxter
Gender Male
Age 56
Birth year 1860
Marital status M
Occupation SLEET? <<<<<<<Electrician on image
Departure year 1916
Departure day 16
Departure month 10
Departure port Glasgow
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Tuscania
Ship official number 137785
Ship master's first name P
Ship master's last name MCLEAN
Shipping line ANCHOR
City GLASGOW
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 2898
Ship registered tonnage 8621
Number of passengers 159
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland, United States, Americas
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

Certainly seems to be the correct death (even though an Andrew Baxter is listed on the valuation rolls at Parkfoot Terrace in 1920)

Kirkintilloch Gazette 11 January 1918

KILLED ABROAD
A telegram received by Mrs Baxter, Parkfoot Terrace last week intimated that her husband, Andrew Baxter, has been killed on the railway at Boswell, USA. Details are lacking. Deceased, who emigrated about six years ago, was a miner with the Banknock Coal Company. He had two sons and a daughter.

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Kilsyth Chronicle 01 March 1918

LONGCROFT SOLDIER WINS THE MILITARY MEDAL

Official intimation is given that Private Thomas Baxter, A & SH, has been award the Military Medal... A son of Mrs Baxter, Parkfoot Longcroft, Tom has since winning the award been promoted to the rank of sergeant...In civil life he was a miner at Broomridge Colliery. His father was killed a few weeks ago in a railway accident in America.