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1851 help please

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 May 2018 08:22

Malyon

It's two different girls . Same name born approx same year but to different parents

Dea

Dea Report 7 May 2018 07:54

Harriet's sister Caroline was baptised at the same time as Harriet:

Name: Caroline Ramplin
Gender: Female
Christening Age: 2
Birth Date: abt 1839
Birth Place: Whatfield, Suff, England
Christening Date: 1 Aug 1841
Christening Place: Whatfield, Suff, Eng, Suffolk, England
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Father: John Ramplin
Mother: Jane Ramplin
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Dea x

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 May 2018 06:27

Some people do get double-counted, e.g., my grandad's Aunt Christie:


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 10 Schedule: 52
Address: South Street, Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREIG John Head M M 32 Farm Servant Aberdeenshire - Fraserburgh
GREIG Margaret Wife M F 23 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Dau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG William Son - M 6m Aberdeenshire - Longside


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 176 Page: 21 Schedule: 100
Address: Hill Of Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SLESSOR William Head M M 66 Farmer Of 15 Acres & Carrier Aberdeenshire - Longside
SLESSOR Christian Wife M F 52 Aberdeenshire - Old Deer
SLESSOR Mary Dau U F 26 Aberdeenshire - Longside
Page: 176/22 SLESSOR John D Son U M 17 Farmer & Carrier's Son Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Grndau - F 2 Aberdeenshire - Longside



There's a quite obvious explanaton for her standing in both enumerations taken together, which the next census tends tp corroborate:

1861 Census
Piece: SCT1861/218 Place: Longside -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Longside Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 17 Schedule: 118
Address: Hill Of Mintlaw
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
SLESSOR William Head W M 78 Farmer Of 14 Acres Aberdeenshire - Longside 4 rooms
GREIG John Sonlaw M M 46 Ploughman Aberdeenshire - Fraserburgh
GREIG Margaret Dau M F 32 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG Christian Grndau - F 12 Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG William Grnson - M 10 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Longside
GREIG John Grnson - M 6 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Rathen
GREIG James Grnson - M 5 Aberdeenshire - Longside
Page: 0/18 PARK Mary A Grndau - F 4 Aberdeenshire - Longside


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However, the situatiion you describe is much more like seeing Christian, d/o John and Margaret, and this 1851 census taken 2 miles N of Mintlaw:


1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/228 Place: Old Deer -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2B
Civil Parish: Old Deer Ban Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 17 Schedule: 72
Address: West Street, Fetterangus
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREIG William Head M M 49 Carpenter Banffshire - Old Deer
GREIG Jean Wife M F 33 Aberdeenshire - Tarves
GREIG Christian Dau - F 3 Banffshire - Old Deer
GREIG William Son - M 2 Banffshire - Old Deer

Here, the most obvious explanation is they're two difft kids with the same name.
Unlike my Christian, I've never researched this Christian, so I can't substantiate this

Just out of interest, I looked on FreeBMD with no dates, and there's 10 births for me (but no others match my mid-initial).
In the past, I've googled me, and there were a dozen plus of me, including a NZ fisheries researcher, a soc prof from Edinburgh, and a garage owning mechanic from the midlands.


malyon

malyon Report 6 May 2018 19:43

ly Tree Genealogies Catalog Books Wiki
- Rampling
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name: - Rampling
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Whatfield, Suffolk, England
Residence Note: Null
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Age (Original): 7
Occupation: Null
Birth Year (Estimated): 1834
Birthplace: Suffolk
Registration District: Cosford
Parish: Whatfield
County: Suffolk
Page Number: 14
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1022/8
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Rampling Male 35-39 Suffolk
Jane Rampling Female 35-39 Suffolk
William Rampling Male 15-19 Suffolk
James Rampling Male 14 Suffolk
- Rampling Female 7 Suffolk
- Rampling Female 1 Suffolk

malyon

malyon Report 6 May 2018 19:40

? Rampling
England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977
Name: ? Rampling
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 20 Jul 1834
Christening Place: Hadleigh, Suffolk
Father's Name: William Rampling
Affiliate Publication Number: RG4_2704

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 May 2018 19:37

Who did she marry ?

If Ancestry's suggestions are anything to go by -

they don't suggest any marriage for John & Jane's daughter.

They do suggest that William & Elizabeth's daughter married Samuel London/Loudon:

Harriett London
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Harriett London
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel London
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Kersey
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Cosford
Sub-registration district: Hadleigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1136
Folio: 19
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel London 36
Harriett London 27
Harriett E London 1


(From FamilySearch) :-

Harriet Ramplin
mentioned in the record of Samuel Loudon and Harriet Ramplin
Name Samuel Loudon
Spouse's Name Harriet Ramplin
Event Date 07 Mar 1856
Event Place Hadleigh,Suffolk,England

On the original document Samuel seems to be written as Sarah, and that's what's transcribed in FreeBMD and Ancestry.


The child's middle name is Elizabeth - if that can be counted as a clue:

Harriet Elizabeth London
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Harriet Elizabeth London
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 Apr 1860
Baptism Place: Kersey,Suffolk,England
Father: Samuel London
Mother: Harriet
FHL Film Number: 919620

Sidami

Sidami Report 6 May 2018 18:14

Thanks Shirley.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 May 2018 17:35

If one is your ancestor then you need her marriage cert to see who she names as her father

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 May 2018 17:33

Born difffrent areas of Suffolk


Name: Harriet Ramplin
Gender: Female
Christening Age: 8
Birth Date: 1833
Birth Place: Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk, England
Christening Date: 1 Aug 1841
Christening Place: Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk, England
Father: John Ramplin
Mother: Jane Ramplin
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Name: Harriet Rampton
[Harriet Ramplin]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Rampton
Mother's name: Elizabeth Rampton
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Hadleigh
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County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Cosford
Sub-registration district: Lavenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Piece: 1790
Folio: 358
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Rampton 47
Elizabeth Rampton 43
George Rampton 18
Harriet Rampton 17
Sarah Rampton 14
Eliza Rampton 6
Walter Rampton 10
Diana Rampton 1

Sidami

Sidami Report 6 May 2018 17:12

I have the same girl on two different pages living with 2 sets of parents? Harriett Ramplin bn 1834 Hadleigh...