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Peter Orme........born 1840

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 15:59

Fof INFO only

Name: Peter Orme
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1841
Marriage Date: 16 Jan 1865
Marriage Place: Wigan, St Catherine, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Wigan

Father: George Orme
Spouse: Jane Byers

Baptism: 10 Apr 1865 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Thomas Orme - [Child] of Peter Orme & Jane
Born: 27 Mar
Abode: Ince
Occupation: Collier
Notes: [Surname originally recorded as 'Hall' but deleted & corrected]
Baptised by: A. H. Webb Curate
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 19, Entry 151
Source: LDS Film 1885683


Baptism: 5 Jul 1868 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Betty Orme - [Child] of Peter Orme & Jane
Born: 15 ? 1867
Abode: Platt Lane
Occupation: Collier
Notes: [Month of birth not recorded]
Baptised by: A. H. Hodd, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 377, Entry 3010
Source: LDS Film 1885683

Baptism: 5 Jul 1868 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Thomas Orme - [Child] of Peter Orme & Jane
Born: 27 Mar 1865
Abode: Platt Lane
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: A. H. Hodd, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1865 - 1868, Page 377, Entry 3009
Source: LDS Film 1885683

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 May 2018 15:56

Baptism: 18 May 1831 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Ann Barton Birchall - Daur. of Elizabeth Birchall
Abode: Hallate
Baptised by: J. Bromilow
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 72, Entry 569
Source: LDS Film 1885678

In 1911, he gives info normally given by a wife.

Married 50 years, 4 children, only one alive

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 15:48

1891 from fmp


Denis Halliday Son In Law Married Male 20 1871 Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Transcription
Ann J Halliday Stepdaughter Married Female 24 1867 Aspull, Lancashire, England Cotton Spinner
Transcription
Jane Halliday Granddaughter - Female 0 1891 Lancashire, England -
Transcription
John Johnson Stepson Single Male 22 1869 Lancashire, England Coal Miner
Rylance Row, Wigan, Lancashire, England

he was only lodging with catherine carbury
image says unmarried, a coalminer

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 4 May 2018 15:42

Thanks Maddie. Don't think its the one with the sister Lucy but I do think there is a possibility with the other 2.

I think he remarries in 1873 but I cannot find a death for his first wife. His second? wife was a Johnson by marriage which makes me wonder about the John Johnson in the 1891 census.

No idea about Catherine Carbury in the 1871 but I wonder if he left his wife?

Hope this makes sense.

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 15:37

1871
Name Peter Horme
Age 31
Estimated Birth Year abt 1840
Relation Boarder
Gender Male
Where born Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish St Thomas
Town Wigan
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Wigan
Sub-registration district Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel 28
Household schedule number 104
Piece 3887
Folio 158
Page number 15
Household Members
Name Age
Catherine Carbury 47
Peter Horme 31

a coalminer ???

Maddie

Maddie Report 4 May 2018 15:30

????? there is this one but with sister lucy so maybe not
1891
Mount Park Crescent, Twyford Abbey Ealing, Brentford, Middlesex, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Peter Orme Head Single Male 51 1840 Lancashire, England Agent In London
Transcription
Lucy Orme Sister Single Female 35 1856 Lancashire, England -
Transcription
Annie E Donnelly Servant Single Female 23 1868 Lancashire, England Domestic Servant

or
1891
Name Peter Orme
Gender Male
Age 46
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1845
Birth Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Wigan
Residence Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district Wigan
ED, Institution or Vessel 39
Piece 3055
Folio 22
Household Members
Name Age
Peter Orme
Denis Halliday
Ann J Halliday
Jane Halliday
John Johnson

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 4 May 2018 15:24

Can some kind person please see if they can find Peter Orme on the 1871 and 1891 census?

I have him on the 41/51/61/81/01 and 1911 but those two decades are missing. I also have his baptism, his marriage to Jane Byers and a possible 2nd marriage to Ann Barton Birchall.

Peter Orme - born 1840 Newton, son of George and Sarah Orme

1841
Name Peter Orm
Age 1
Estimated Birth Year abt 1840
Gender Male
Where born Lancashire, England
Civil parish Winwick
Hundred West Derby
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Warrington
Sub-registration district Newton
Piece 524
Book 14
Folio 11
Page number 14
Household Members
Name Age
George Orm 25
Sarah Orm 20
Peter Orm 1


1851

Name Peter Oline
Age 10
Estimated Birth Year abt 1841
Relation Son
Father's Name George Oline
Mother's Name Sarah Oline
Gender Male
Where born Newton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Aspull
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Wigan
Sub-registration district Standish
ED, institution, or vessel 3b
Household schedule number 29
Piece 2198
Folio 366
Page number 8
Household Members
Name Age
George Oline 37
Sarah Oline 32
Peter Oline 10
Mary Oline 8
Betty Oline 5
Thomas Oline 2
John Ball 17

1861
Name Peter Orme
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year 1841
Relation Son
Father's Name George Orme
Mother's Name Sarah Orme
Gender Male
Where born Newton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish St Catherine
Town Wigan
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Wigan
Sub-registration district Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel 7
Household schedule number 109
Piece 2772
Folio 36
Page number 19
Household Members
Name Age
George Orme
Sarah Orme
Peter Orme
Mary Orme
Betty Orme
Thomas Orme
Jane Orme
William Orme
Alice Orme
Thomas Lea
Eliza Jane Lea

Thank you. x