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Albert Edward Howard

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Patrick

Patrick Report 28 Apr 2018 21:16

Looking for ancesters of Albert Edward Howard born around 1908 and married Lillian May Ellsmore

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Apr 2018 21:52

Where was he born, please?

There's more than one Albert Edward Howard born around 1908.

Christine

Christine Report 28 Apr 2018 21:54

This one married in West Brom RD?

Marriages Dec 1930
Ellsmore Lilian M Howard W.Bromwich 6b 1779
Howard Albert E Ellsmore W.Bromwich 6b 1779

Christine

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Apr 2018 21:56

The marriage, for our reference, to give us idea of place - though doesn't necessarily help with Albert:

Lilian M Ellsmore
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Lilian M Ellsmore
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1930
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Spouse: Albert E Howard
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1779

Do you have a copy of the cert? If so, what was Albert's father's name?

Dea

Dea Report 28 Apr 2018 21:57

There are MANY Albert Edwards born around that time but I think this may be him with family in 1939 (They did have 3 children by then):

Howard Household (5 People) 37 Corser Street , Smethwick C.B., Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Lillian M Howard 15 May 1910 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Albert E Howard 17 Feb 1905 Brass & Copper Tube Drawer
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Dea

Dea Report 28 Apr 2018 22:00

Likely to be one of these births:

HOWARD, ALBERT EDWARD CROCKELL Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 520 Order
HOWARD, ALBERT EDWARD WOODGATE Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 250

I suspect it will be the first one?

Dea x

Christine

Christine Report 28 Apr 2018 22:00

????

Births Mar 1905
Howard Albert Edward King's N. 6c 520

Christine

Christine Report 28 Apr 2018 22:01

I am not getting any red writing!

Dea

Dea Report 28 Apr 2018 22:11

At a guess I would think this is the parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
COOKE John Thomas Birmingham 6d 388 Scan available - click to view
CROCKETT Evalina Birmingham 6d 388 Scan available - click to view *****
Howard John Allen Birmingham 6d 388 Scan available - click to view *****
QUINN Edith Elizabeth Birmingham 6d 388 Scan available - click to view




1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
41 Queen St Smethwick, Smethwick, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
John Allen Howard Head Married Male 34 1877 Winson Green Birmingham Heading Machine Tool Setter Screw Trade
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Evelina Howard Wife Married Female 33 1878 Smethwick -
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John Howard Son - Male 10 1901 Smethwick School
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Robert Howard Son - Male 9 1902 Smethwick School
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Leslie Stanton Howard Son - Male 7 1904 Smethwick School
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Albert Edward Howard Son - Male 5 1906 Smethwick School
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Maisie Howard Daughter - Female 4 1907 Smethwick -



I think this birth confirms that the maiden name should be Crockett and so fits with the above marriage:

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HOWARD, MAISIE CROCKETT Order
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 497

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alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2018 19:14

Lilian's death? This is the couple from the 1939 register.

First name(s) LILIAN MAY
Last name HOWARD
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 5
Birth year 1910
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1989
District Birmingham
Register number 1289
County Warwickshire
Volume 32
Page 909

and Albert's

ALBERT EDWARD
Last name HOWARD
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 2
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1971
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 9C
Page 527

Patrick

Patrick Report 17 May 2018 22:06

Many thanks for all your help