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27 Apr 2018 02:01 |
As with others, and spending a lot of time, cannot find Alexander Diggins later life record. I have his naval records from 1876 - 1883. He is in the 1881 census, but there seems to be little information after left the navy! Do not know when he the joined the Royal Fusiliers, being in 4 different sections. He seems to have survived WW I, but when was he discharged, when/if married, emigrated, died?
As in the past, would appreciate some help please.
Terence.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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27 Apr 2018 06:57 |
Would he have served in WW1 if he was born 1862 Would have thought he would be too old
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27 Apr 2018 07:03 |
GRO birth record
DIGGINS, ALEXANDER BELL GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 360
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27 Apr 2018 07:07 |
Got a feeling the medal card is for this guy
DIGGINS, ALEXANDER VICTOR FREY GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 17 Order
Marriages Dec 1889 Diggins James St Olave 1d 624 Frey Louisa Maria St. Olave 1d 624 Frey Louise Marie St. Olave 1d 624
Maybe his brothers son
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Homerton Grove, St John At Hackney, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
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Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Diggins Head - Male 42 1829 - Oxfordshire, England Elizabeth Diggins Wife - Female 43 1828 - Oxfordshire, England George Henry Diggins Son - Male 17 1854 - Middlesex, England Charles Diggins Son - Male 15 1856 - Middlesex, England Annie Diggins Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Middlesex, England
James Diggins Son - Male 10 1861 - Middlesex, England >>>>>>>> Alexander Diggins Son - Male 8 1863 - Middlesex, England Emily Diggins Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England
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27 Apr 2018 07:15 |
He deserted at one time
Alexander Diggins in the UK, Military Deserters, 1812-1927 View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Alexander Diggins Age: 18 Birth Year: Abt 1861 Birth Place: Hackney, Middlesex Desertion Date: 1879 Publication Date: 19 Sep 1879
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27 Apr 2018 07:21 |
Maybe as Alexander was in the navy and onboard a vessel in1881 he died at sea and his brother james named his son Alexander after him
There doesn't seem to be a death for Alexander born 1862 onnthe GRO records
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27 Apr 2018 08:43 |
Interesting Says last service date June 1883 on vessel Duncan. Then looks like went on reserve
Must have been where you had the 1883 last known from
View UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939 Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Alexander Diggins Gender: Male Birth Date: 19 Jun 1861 Birth Place: Hackney, Middlesex First Service Date: 3 Aug 1876 First Ship Served On: Fisgard Last Service Date: 15 Jun 1883 Last Ship Served On: Duncan Service Number: 97145
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27 Apr 2018 09:26 |
As he doesn't appear on any later records it would seem he went abroad maybe and passed away wherever
Online travel doesn't start till 1890
Maybe too he rejoined and got caught up in the second Boar War
All supposition of course
Several trees on Ancestry haven't got a death for him either
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27 Apr 2018 12:28 |
Alexander Diggens England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Alexander Diggens Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: , Royal Navy At Sea, Ships And Overseas Establishments Gender: Male Age: 19 Marital Status (Original): S Occupation: Ordinary 2nd Class Birth Year (Estimated): 1862 Birthplace: Hackney, London, England Page Number: 6 Registration Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5639/37 Affiliate Record Type: Household
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27 Apr 2018 13:03 |
he did not have a middle name
Alexander Diggins England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 Name: Alexander Diggins Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1862 Registration District: Hackney County: London Event Place: Hackney, London, England Volume: 1B Page: 360 Line Number: 121
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28 Apr 2018 03:06 |
Thank you very much Shirley and Malyon for your time looking into this mystery. We all seem to have found the same items from the records. Cannot find much about Alexander Victor Diggins 1894, only that he married Ethel in 1917. He does not seem to have a military record. But Owen Alexander Diggins, a cousin, born about the same time, did service in and survived WWI. His records sometimes shows his name with a feint 'Owen', added after signing. I'm thinking that he prefered the name Alexander instead of Owen. But he was in the Shropshire Light Infantry as opposd to our original Alexander (1862), which looks like he was in the Royal Fusiliers. Agreed Shirley he could have been too old for WWI, but he may have been in a supply company behind the lines. Thank you both again for your replies, and I shall hope to solve this mystery later.
Terence. South Australia.
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ErikaH
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28 Apr 2018 10:11 |
ALEXANDER V
Diggins Alexander V — — 1917 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Hampstead, London, England Diggins Alexander V 1895 1967 1967 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Brent, Middlesex, England Diggins Alexander Victor 1894 — 1894 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Paddington, London, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 14, Boyer Road, Willesden, Hendon, Middlesex, England
James Deggins Head Married Male 40 1861 London, England House Painter Transcription Louise Deggins Wife Married Female 40 1861 France - Transcription James W Deggins Son - Male 10 1891 Camberwell, Surrey, England - Transcription George L Deggins Son - Male 8 1893 Lambeth, Surrey, England - Transcription Alexander V Deggins Son - Male 6 1895 Paddington, Middlesex, England - Transcription Elizabeth M Deggins Daughter - Female 4 1897 Paddington, Middlesex, England - Transcription Robert B Deggins Son - Male 0 1901 Willesden, Middlesex, England
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 132 Kilburn Park Road West, Willesden, Middlesex, England James Diggin Head Married Male 51 1860 Middlesex Painter And Decorator Transcription Louise Diggin Wife Married Female 50 1861 France Nil Transcription Alexander Victor Diggin Sister Single Male 16 1895 Padidngton Erand Boy Transcription Robert Diggin - Single Male 10 1901 Willsden School Transcription Charles Diggin - - Male 7 1904 Willsden - Transcription Joseph Diggin - - Male 5 1906 Willsden - Transcription Horace Diggin - - Male 2 1909 Willsden - Transcription
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Diggins Household (4 People) 31 Attewood Avenue , Willesden M.B., Middlesex, England
Ethel Diggins 14 Dec 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 235 2 Alexander N Diggins 16 Jun 1894 Male Lptb Bus Driver Hw Married 235 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Maria (J Y) Taylor (Diggins) 22 Oct 1930 Female At School Single 235 4
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28 Apr 2018 10:16 |
It would be most unusual for a naval man to join the army - and especially at 50+ years of age
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Terence
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29 Apr 2018 04:20 |
Thank you 'ErikaH' for your input, it all helps. So far I don't think I have the "army" Alexander's personal details to prove where he came from. There are a few second name Alexander's in the 'tree', and often ancestor's prefered to use their second name, even on official records, which can be very confusing! I will have another look at all this again soon.
Thanks again ErikaH.
Terence. South Australia.
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29 Apr 2018 12:41 |
Following on from info I posted above about Alexander V
Births Jun 1920 (>99%) Diggins Alexander G J Hills Willesden 3a 670
Births Sep 1922 (>99%) Diggins Sylvia S W Hills Willesden 3a 486
Births Dec 1930 (>99%) Diggins Marie J Y Hills Willesden 3a 516
Marriages Dec 1961 (>99%) DIGGINS Marie J Y TAYLOR Willesden 5f 444 TAYLOR Peter J DIGGINS Willesden 5f 444
Name: Marie Jean Y Taylor Death Age: 53 Birth Date: 22 Oct 1930 Registration Date: Feb 1984 Registration district: Wycombe Inferred County: Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 19 Page: 1410
Marriages Dec 1945 (>99%) Diggins Alexander G J Jones Hendon 3a 1551 Jones Elsie K Diggins Hendon 3a 1551
Name: Alexander George J Diggins Death Age: 71 Birth Date: 22 Mar 1920 Registration Date: Sep 1991 Registration district: Hillingdon Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 892
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30 Apr 2018 10:10 |
Thank you ErikaH for the latest information. Regarding Alexander Diggins 1862, as 'Shirley' has agreed, it seems his last movements were on the warship HMS Duncan which docked at Sheerness. After a lot more time spent searching all possible websites, there seems to be no trace of him from then, in the UK or overseas. At only 20 years old, it's possible he may have joined another ship? Then there is the same name in the WW1 medals list! This is the proverbial "Brick Wall"! Maybe something may turn up later.
Again, thank you all for your help and comments.
Terence.
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