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25 Apr 2018 15:32 |
Thank you, lots of information, you have been a great help.
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24 Apr 2018 23:05 |
Ben Smith in the 1861 England Census Name: Ben Smith Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: 1843 Relation: Son Mother's name: Elizabeth Smith Gender: Male Where born: Staveley, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Staveley County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington ED, institution, or vessel: 14d Neighbors: Household schedule number: 27 Piece: 2536 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Smith 50 - widow Ben Smith 18 Elizabeth Smith 16 Thomas Smith 14 Jane Smith 12 William Smith 9 John Richardson 62 - boarder
Ben Smith in the 1851 England Census Name: Ben Smith Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's name: Henry Smith Mother's name: Elizth Smith Gender: Male Where born: Stavely, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Stanton by Dale Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Stapleford ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 99 Piece: 2141 Folio: 261 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Henry Smith 41 - Ashover, Derbyshire Elizth Smith 40 - Stavely Joseph Smith 9 Ben Smith 8 Elzith Smith 6 Thomas Smith 4 Jane Smith 3 James Smith 85
Elizabeth Richardson in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Elizabeth Richardson Gender: Female Marriage Date: 18 Nov 1833 Marriage Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England Spouse: Henry Smith Witnesses: George Richardson and Mary Fisher
??? Elizabeth Smith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Elizabeth Smith Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Registration Year: 1883 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Barnsley Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 124
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24 Apr 2018 22:34 |
So Ben was alive in 1911, but had died by the time Mary married in 1913.
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Deaths Jun 1912 (>99%) Smith Ben 69 Rotherham 9c 720
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24 Apr 2018 19:44 |
I can remember visiting an Aunt Clara, didn't know for certain it was my grandmothers sister. So looks like my great grandmother's maiden name was Warrington, thats a great help.Thank you.
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24 Apr 2018 19:31 |
Witness to their marriage??
Clara Smith 1883 dad Ben a collier married Samuel Hague 21 both of 31 Violet Terrace Barnsley married 19/8/1900 witness's Joseph smith and Ellen Hague.
1911 12 Oak Terrace Eastwood Rotherham 3 children born 2 died Samuel Hague 30 Sheffield Clara 28 Sheffield Lenard Hague Ben Smith widow born 1842 Arthur Smith Fred Smith
Maryb.
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24 Apr 2018 19:07 |
Sarah Smith in the 1871 England Census Name: Sarah Smith Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Benjm Smith Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Nether Hoyland County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Barnsley Sub-registration district: Darfield ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 4650 Folio: 143 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Benjm Smith 29 Sarah Smith 25 Henry Smith 4 Ruth Smith 2 W E Smith 9 Months
To back up the Smith/Warrington birth for Mary, posted earlier by Erika:
SMITH, RUTH mms WARRINGTON GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 162
SMITH, HENRY mms WARRINGTON GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 138
Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%) Smith Ben Barnsley 9c 189 WARRINGTON Sarah Barnsley 9c 189
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24 Apr 2018 18:50 |
Possible death of Benjamin ??
Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%) SMITH Benjamin 65 Barnsley 9c 131
EDIT: No, this can't be him, in light of Mary's post below, showing that Benjamin was still alive in 1911.
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Glynis
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24 Apr 2018 18:48 |
Thank you so much everyone , this helps me so much. gives me leads to follow, all help much appreciated .
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24 Apr 2018 18:37 |
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Ben Smith in the 1901 England Census Name: Ben Smith Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Sarah Smith Birth Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Conisbrough Ecclesiastical parish: Denaby Town: Conisbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Barmbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 4406 Folio: 118 Page Number: 18 Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age Ben Smith 58 - coal miner (hewer) Sarah Smith 52 - Sheffield
Also on the image, but not transcribed with them on Ancestry:
Mary, 10, and Frederick, 6. Both born Sheffield.
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24 Apr 2018 17:52 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 77, Worthing Road, Attercliffe cum Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Ben Smith Head Married Male 39 1842 Staveley, Derbyshire, England Coal Miner Sarah Smith Wife Married Female 34 1847 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England - Henry Smith Son Single Male 14 1867 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Coal Miner Ruth Smith Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - William Smith Son Single Male 9 1872 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - Elizabeth Smith Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - Rebecca Smith Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - Jane Smith Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - Ellen Smith Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England - Joseph Smith Son Single Male 2 1879 Hoyland, Yorkshire, England -
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24 Apr 2018 17:05 |
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Station Road, Kimberworth, Rotherham, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Benjamin Smith Head Married Male 49 1842 Derbyshire, England Coal Miner Transcription Sarah Smith Wife Married Female 45 1846 Yorkshire, England - Transcription William Smith Son Single Male 19 1872 Yorkshire, England Coal Miner Transcription Ellen Smith Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Yorkshire, England General Servant Domestic Transcription Joseph Smith Son - Male 13 1878 Yorkshire, England - Transcription Sarah Smith Daughter - Female 10 1881 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Clara Smith Daughter - Female 8 1883 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Elizabeth Smith Daughter - Female 6 1885 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Arthur Smith Son - Male 2 1889 Yorkshire, England - Transcription Mary Smith Daughter - Female 0 1891 Yorkshire, England -
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ErikaH
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24 Apr 2018 17:03 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Smithies Old Road, Monk Bretton, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England Charles Pickersgill Head Married Male 32 1859 Yorkshire, England Collier Transcription Annie E Pickersgill Wife Married Female 34 1857 Yorkshire, England - Transcription Joseph Hepplestone Son Single Male 16 1875 Yorkshire, England Coal Pit Boy Transcription Florence Pickersgill Daughter - Female 10 1881 Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Alvine Pickersgill Son - Male 8 1883 Monk Bretton, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Ethel Pickersgill Daughter - Female 2 1889 Yorkshire, England - Transcription Frank Pickersgill Son - Male 0 1891 Yorkshire, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Carlton Road Smithies Terrace, Monk Bretton, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Charley Pickersgill Head Married Male 43 1858 Yorkshire, England Coal Hewer Transcription Ann E Pickersgill Wife Married Female 44 1857 Smithies, Yorkshire, England - Transcription Alvin Pickersgill Son Single Male 18 1883 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Coal Trammer Transcription Ethel Pickersgill Daughter Single Female 12 1889 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Frank Pickersgill Son Single Male 10 1891 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Frances Pickersgill Daughter Single Female 7 1894 Smithies, Yorkshire, England Scholar Transcription Charles Pickersgill Son Single Male 2 1899 Smithies, Yorkshire, England - Transcription Thomas Hy Williams Boarder Single Male 18 1883 Flintshire, Wales Coal Trammer
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ErikaH
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24 Apr 2018 16:57 |
You're in luck - the marriage cert is on Ancestry
Name: Mary Smith Marriage Age: 23 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1890 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1913 Marriage Place: Barnsley, St Mary, Yorkshire, England Parish: Barnsley, St Mary Father: Ben Smith _ Deceased - miner Spouse: Frank Pickergill Address for both parties 106 Old Mill Lane, Barnsley
Witnesses: Samuel Hague and Clara Hague
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ErikaH
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24 Apr 2018 16:52 |
This birth fits with the DOB on 1939, BUT, only applies IF she was born in Barnsley
SMITH, MARY WARRINGTON Order GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 182
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ErikaH
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24 Apr 2018 16:44 |
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Pickersgill Household (2 People) 23 Carlton Lane , Barnsley C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Mary Pickersgill 22 Jun 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 135 1 Edna Rhodes (Pickersgill) 11 Feb 1928 Female At School Single 135 2
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ErikaH
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24 Apr 2018 16:42 |
If you get a copy of the marriage cert, you will find out if she knew her father's name
Without that, you may struggle
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Glynis
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24 Apr 2018 16:27 |
Looking for information about my grandmothers family Smith, and any other information, such as her mothers maiden name, and siblings. She was born in 1891and died in 1965, I'm not sure where she was born. She married my grandfather Frank Pickersgill in 1913, in Barnsley South Yorkshire. They lived in Barnsley all their lives, but I can't find her family as her maiden name is so common. Any information would be gratefully received. Many thanks
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