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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Union St Pontlottyn, Gelligaer, Glamorganshire, Wales

Arthur Potter Husband Married Male 29 1882 Porth Glamorganshire Coal Miner Hewer Transcription
Charity Potter Wife Married Female 28 1883 Penybrook Glamorganshire - Transcription
Gertrude May Potter Daughter Single Female 9 1902 Pontygwaith Glamorganshire - Transcription
Bessie Potter Daughter Single Female 8 1903 Pontypridd Glamorganshire - Transcription
Charity Louise Potter Daughter Single Female 4 1907 Pontlottyn Glamorganshire - Transcription
Mildred Potter Daughter Single Female 2 1909 Pontlottyn Glamorganshire - Transcription
Charlie Potter Brother Single Male 24 1887 Wattstown Glamorganshire Coal Miner Hewer Transcription
Edward Thomas Jenkins Stepbrother Single Male 21 1890 Ynshir Glamorganshire Coal Miner Hewer Transcription
Arthur Martin Brother In Law Single Male 32 1879 Henley Lancashire Coal Miner Hewer

Arthur Martin was the only surviving child. The only people who can have his parents as their grandparents are his two daughters.

I'm sorry if I'm missing the point somehow, but surely Linda knows the names of her in-laws?

I know where Linda comes into it, but not Barrie.

I know for sure that LInda is a blood relative, as for Barrie, I think we are related through the step family created by my Great Great Grandmother Elizabeth Potter/Jenkins marrying again after Thomas dissapeared.

Exactly.

I have just emailed the wife of another cousin of mine. Who thinks that someone she knows, a Colin Jenkins is Barries brother. That may or may not be so. I wait to hear from her. Only just sent it.

That is why I am having to tread carefully.

Having said that, both Barrie and Linda have told me seperatly that they have the same Grand Parents.

These are my 2 brick walls;

Barries parents, and what happened to my GG Grandfather.

I just did a search on Ancestry for Barrie, nothing. Only his marriage to Linda. 1968.

If Barrie is your cousin, one of his parents must be a sibling of one of yours.

Ditto Linda.

Just looking back on my notes, she told me Gertrude died age 6, all so very sad.

Tragic!!

Linda also told me that grandparents on her Mums side are George and Emily Kenealy.

Yes, Kenealy is correct.

Linda has a sister Sylvia.

I seem to remember Linda telling me once that 6 children died.

MARTIN, DAVID JOHN COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 564 Order
MARTIN, ISAAC STANLEY COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 573
MARTIN, AMY MILDRED COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 558 Order
MARTIN, GLADYS LOUISA COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in GLOUCESTER Volume 06A Page 315
MARTIN, GERTRUDE KEZIA COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 601
MARTIN, IVY COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 677

These had all died before 1911 census

Marriages Mar 1943 (>99%)
Kenealy Mary A Martin E.Glamorgan 11a 1443
Martin Arthur S Kenealy E.Glamorgan 11a 1443


Two daughters - Linda is the younger of the two

In 1911, Arthur is the only surviving child of the marriage

Name: Isaac Martin
Death Age: 60
Birth Date: abt 1873
Registration Date: Sep 1933
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 538

Thats the one, I recognise Collier/maiden name.

MARTIN, ARTHUR SAMUEL COLLIER Order
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in BEDWELLTY Volume 11A Page 108

Father: Isaac Martin
Mother: Elizabeth Ann Collier****************
Birth: 16/02/1906 Glamorgan Wales
Death: 26/11/1995 Glamorgan Wales
Residence: 02 Apr 1911

Name: Isaac Martin
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 750
Eliza Collier
Isaac Martin

Martin Household (2 People)
6 Garth Street , Gelligaer U.D., Glamorganshire, Wales
Arthur Samuel Martin 16 Feb 1906 Male Incapacitated Single 92 2
Eliza A Martin 14 Sep 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 92 1

Yes it is. She was married to Barrie in the 60's. They got divorced, she re married, then her 2nd husband died, and now she is back with Barrie. I think she was married to someone Evans the 2nd time I can check that.

Yes thank you, its his parentage I would really like to get to the bottom of, I appreciate what you are doing, as you can gather, I dont want to ask Barrie or Linda in case it is sensitive

Is Barrie's wife Linda?

It's his parentage I'm trying to help you with....................

Arthur Samuel Martin 1906 - 1995

Its how my other cousin Barrie is connected that I cant work out, cant work out who his parents are.

I will just get that info.

Arthur Potter my G Grandfather was born in Pontypridd, 25 Feb 1882, died 16th May 1961 in Coventry

You say your cousin's father is Arthur Martin - that's the one I meant