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18 Jul 2019 17:33 |
Death Name MARGARET REILLY Date of Death 1910 Group Registration ID 5150170 SR District/Reg Area Belfast Deceased Age at Death 26
From image Died 26 December 1910 at 51 Lisburn Road but from 16 Oakfield Street Married, wife of Joseph Reilly a Labourer Cause - Pulmonary Tuberculosis
(51 Lisburn Road was the Belfast Union Workhouse and Hospital)
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18 Jul 2019 17:28 |
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Party 1 Name JOSEPH REILLY Party 2 Name MARGARET MONAGHAN Date of Event 07 April 1904 Group Registration ID 1947362 SR District/Reg Area Belfast
From Image Joseph 20 Bachelor, Labourer of 60 butler Street. Father Bernard Reilly a Labourer Margaret 20 spinster, ??can't read occ. of 44 Butler Street, Father Patrick a Postman
Joseph signed, Margaret made her mark. witnesses - Lizzie Duffy and John ? ----berry
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18 Jul 2019 17:21 |
Birth - Name THOMAS REILLY Date of Birth 26 September 1910 Group Registration ID 591485 SR District/Reg Area Belfast Sex Male Mother's Birth Surname MONAGHAN
From image - born at 16 Oakfield Street Father Joseph Reilly of 16 Oakfield Street a Labourer <<<(1911 census address) Mother Margaret Reilly formerly Monaghan
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18 Jul 2019 17:10 |
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
Party 1 Name ROBERT RODGERS Party 2 Name JANE REILLY Date of Event 03 June 1900 Group Registration ID 2439219 SR District/Reg Area Belfast
From image - St Anne's, Belfast Diocese of Connor, after Banns Robert 21, Bachelor, Labourer of 15 Byron Street, Belfast, Father Henry Rodgers, Bricklayer Jane 20, spinster, Carder of 31 Chatham Street, Belfast, Father Bernard Reilly a Labourer
Both signed but same hand as all of marriage certificate so looks like the priest - he spells as Reilly Witnesses - David Armour and Margaret Anne Reilly
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Dea
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18 Jul 2019 16:28 |
It is certainly the same Bernard Riley on the 1911 census with his daughter Margaret as the one with wife Mary Ann + family on 1901 census in Ireland !
The fact that they had 12 children and 8 had died also matches. You will note that on the 1911 census of Mary Ann the number of years has been altered - it looks like it was originally forty something but was altered to 39. - As she was claiming her age as 61 I suppose she could not really say she was married around 12 years of age ;-) :-D
I would really appreciate your help to confirm that this is the right one GG - I am sure it is !!
Dea x
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18 Jul 2019 16:22 |
Looks good Dea - despite the differences in age and how long they'd been married !! Getting too late last night to go hunting and just got back to it now.
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Dea
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18 Jul 2019 14:12 |
This appears to be Bernard living with daughter Margaret in 1911 - I think you have wife Mary Ann on an Irish 1911?
1911 Census For England & Wales - image says RILEY !!!! 7 Orders Lane Kirkham, Kirkham, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Margaret Crougham Head Widow Female 44 1867 Cotton Intermediate Frame Tenter Kirkham Lancs John Joe Crougham Son Widower Male 25 1886 Scutching Machine Tenter Kirkham Lancs Joseph Crougham Grandson - Male 5 1906 - Kirkham Lancs Bernard Kiley Father Married Male 64 1847 General Labourer Longford Ireland Res Bernard Kiley's Census Details Details taken from the original census record.
Bernard was married 48 years - 12 children (8 had died + 4 still living).
Dea x
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18 Jul 2019 13:35 |
I am looking at this one at the moment although on 1871 Bernard is showing as born in Ireland ??
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Ellen MCLOUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/15/98
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1865 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Mary MCLAUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/16/70
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Margaret MCLAUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/17/46
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1870 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Bartholomew MCLAUGHLEN Kirkham Preston KH/19/97
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY John MCLOUGHLAND Little Bolton Bolton LB/68/435
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY William MCLOUGHLAN Kirkham Preston KH/24/76
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Mary Agnes MCLAUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/26/13
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Bernard MCLAUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/27/66
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY Joseph MCLOUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/28/72
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference RILEY William MCLOUGHLIN Kirkham Preston KH/30/27
Death: Births Sep 1870 (>99%) RILEY Bartholomew Fylde 8e 593 Scan available - click to view Deaths Jun 1871 (>99%) Riley Bartholomew 0 Fylde 8e 475 Scan available - click to view
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Mill Street, Kirkham, Fylde, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Bernard Riley Head - Male 23 1848 - Ireland.......................................... ??? Mary Anne Riley Wife - Female 25 1846 - Ireland Margaret Riley Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Lancashire, England Bartholomew Riley Son - Male 0 1871 - Lancashire, England Ellen McGlaughlan Mother-In-Law - Female 54 1817 - Ireland
Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%) McLoughlen Mary Ann Fylde 8e 796 Scan available - click to view Riley Bernard Fylde 8e 796 Scan available - click to view
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference RILEY Bernard MCLAUGHLEN Mary Ann Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/5/30
He is not at home in 1881:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 14, Mill Street, Kirkham, Fylde, Lancashire, England
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary Ann Riley Head Married Female 34 1847 Operative Linen Ireland Margaret Riley Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Operative Linen Kirkham, Lancashire, England Jane Riley Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Pendleton, Lancashire, England Margaret Agnes Riley Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Kirkham, Lancashire, England Ellen Mc Loughlen Moth Widow Female 60 1821 Operative Linen Ireland
All the ages are a little out but I think is is worth following further??
Back later..........
Dea x
EDIT: Bernard + Mary A had 12 children in total - 10 are posted above - these would be the other two :
ALSO:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: RILEY, JANE MCLOUGHLIN GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 35 RILEY, MARY ANN MCLOUGHLIN GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 8 Dea x
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Nellie123
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18 Jul 2019 13:22 |
Thank you greyghost this one has stumped me , they are my husbands family on his mothers side , He has one aunt still living and in her 90s , she asked me to see what I could find , I will let her know what you have found , Thank you ever so much for your help Nellie
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greyghost
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18 Jul 2019 00:05 |
??? In Warrington 1861 but born a bit earlier than the 1901 census age suggests. Not born Warrington, but if the family moved there when he was v young he may have thought that was where he was born
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Town Hill, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Patrick Riley Head Married Male 33 1828 Tailor Ireland Bridget Riley Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Ireland Thomas Riley Son Single Male 11 1850 - Ireland Bernard Riley Son Single Male 8 1853 - Bolton, England Annie Riley Daughter Single Female 6 1855 - Bolton, England Patrick Riley Son Single Male 3 1858 - Warrington, Lancashire, England William Borsley Visitor Single Male 37 1824 Shoe Maker Ireland
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17 Jul 2019 23:49 |
Bernard and Mary Ann's marriage should be c 1871/2 if married for 39 years in 1911.
But that would make them rather young if born c 1855/6 as 1901 census ages suggest, although Mary Ann shown as older in 1911
(Apologies I said 1861 earlier for marriage, have corrected)
Not seeing a suitable marriage England/Wales or Ireland or Scotland
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17 Jul 2019 23:12 |
There are four possible Mary Agneses, but I don't see any Josephs or Janes with the same mms at approx the right years:
Nor any marriage for Jane either in England or in Ireland.
RILEY, MARY AGNES BRANNON GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 371
RILEY, MARY AGNES mms MCMURRY GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 140 Occasional Copy: A
RILEY, MARY AGNES mms MCGUINNESS GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 885
RILEY, MARY AGNES mms HEWETSON GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 417
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17 Jul 2019 23:03 |
looks to be married daughter Jane in 1911 - confirms born England along with brother Joseph also b England. Married 10 years, 2 children born
Original also shows Mary Ann as Married - 39 years only 4 children alive out of 12 born !!
Note spelling of Riley / Reilly
1911 - Residents of a house 8 in Oakfield Street (Clifton, Antrim)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Rodgers Robert 30 Male Head of Family C of England Co Antrim General Labourer Read and write - Married - 10 2 1 Rodgers Jane 30 Female Wife Roman Catholic England - Read and write - Married - 10 2 1 Rodgers William 9 Male Son Roman Catholic Belfast City Scholars Read and write - Single - - - - Reilly Mary Ann 61 Female Mother in Law Roman Catholic Co Dublin - Read - Married - 39 12 4 Reilly Joseph 25 Male Brother in Law Roman Catholic England General Labourer Read and write - Widower - 6 3 2 Reilly Thomas Male Nephew Roman Catholic Belfast City - Cannot read - Single - - - - age 6 months
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17 Jul 2019 22:56 |
Have you found the births of the children born England to give you a mmn?
The family were in England 1891 an 1881 looking at the places of birth on census.
Both born before registration became compulsory.
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17 Jul 2019 22:51 |
the 1901 census you refer to -
Residents of a house 14 in Chatham Street (Clifton Ward, Antrim) Show all information Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Riley Mary Agnes 18 Female Daughter R Catholic England Drawer Flax Can read and write - Not Married - Rodgers Jane 22 Female Daughter R Catholic Manchester, England Carder of Tow Can read and write - Married - Rodgers William Male Grand Son R Catholic Belfast - Cannot read - Not Married - Riley Bernard 45 Male Head of Family R Catholic Warrington, England General Labour Can read and write - Married - Riley Joseph 16 Male Son R Catholic England Machine Boy in Spinning Mill Can read and write - Not Married - Rodgers Robert 21 Male Son in Law Church of Ireland Co Antrim Van Man Can read and write - Married - Riley Mary Ann 45 Female Wife R Catholic Dublin City Flax Spinner Can read not write - Married -
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17 Jul 2019 22:35 |
Hi Can anyone help please I am trying to find a birth for a Bernard Riley I have found him in the 1901 Census in Ireland and it gives his place of birth as Warrington England ,It also gives his wife as Mary Ann Riley born in Dublin , I have tried looking for them with up to 5 years apart from the date given in the census but still I can not find them any help very much appreciated thank you in advance Nellie
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12 Apr 2019 14:29 |
Thank you everyone for your help very much appreciated Nellie
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ArgyllGran
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11 Apr 2019 18:51 |
Thanks for looking, GG. I didn't have much hope that it would be Andrew.
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greyghost
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11 Apr 2019 18:49 |
Have had a look at the above article via FMP - AG's article refers to a man named Michael Scanlin
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11 Apr 2019 18:18 |
There's this - but probably too late to be about an accident on the 23rd:
FRIDAY MORNING, APRIL 30
... Lodginrg-House at Y~orth Wood- ai side Road, was lifting!, nit the hatches ?? ?? hold of the as. Trinacria, lying in the harhour, f -he oveshalanced and fell into the hold, a depth of - '25 feet. He was severely injured initernally, andr was removed in ... Published: Friday 30 April 1886 Newspaper: Glasgow Herald County: Lanarkshire, Scotland
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