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ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 15 Apr 2018 15:17

Can anyone help me?

I have been contacted from Aus by someone who thinks we have a connection ,I am not sure he has the correct family but would like to help if possible

His grandfather James Higginbotham was a Royal Marine and was lost with the Prince of Wales on 10 Dec 1941,his father was only 2 at the time and so never knew him and he is havng difficulty finding out much.

I have found the following re James Higginbotham Marine from the website
James Higginbotham age 24
Parents-Michael Higginbotham & Maggie Higginbotham
Gartgosh> Lanarkshire

It is the mothers maiden which would help - he (also a Michael H) thinks it was Margaret McArdle

Any help appreciated


:-) :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2018 15:26

Commonwealth War Graves site says wife's name was Julia.

Edit: Can't find a marriage of James Higginbotham to a Julia on FreeBMD.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2018 15:49

A tree on Ancestry says that he was born 3 march 1917, Ireland and was married to Julia Greechan. He was son of Michael Higginbotham & Margaret McCardle.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 15 Apr 2018 16:30

CWGC

Marine
HIGGINBOTHAM, JAMES

Service Number PLY/X 100325

Died 10/12/1941

Aged 24

H.M.S. Prince of Wales.
Royal Marines

Son of Michael and Maggie Higginbotham; husband of Julia Higginbotham, of Gartcosh, Lanarkshire.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 16:33

This might be the Irish birth on the Ancestry tree:

Name: James Higginbotham
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1917
Registration district: Armagh
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 37
FHL Film Number: 101077

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 16:45

Scotland's People has the marriage of James Higginbotham to Julia Greechan on 2nd Nov 1940 at ST Joseph's Church Glenborg (?) after the rites of the Roman Catholic church.

Groom was aged 23, Royal Marine, Bachelor, Whinstone Quarry Lugger. His father was Michael Higginbotham, Royal Marine, and mother Maggie Higginbotham M/S Mc Ardle deceased.

Julia was a brick worker, spinster, of 72 Main St, Glenborg. Her father was Peter Greechan, coal miner, and her mother was Julia Ann Greechan M/S Linden ( I think, hard to read) deceased.

Witnesses Gerard (or Poss Gerald) Byrne 11 Main St Glenboig and Bridget Haggerty, 11 Glen Avenue, Can't read location, ends in 'ston'


EDIT: I have mistranscribed, Glenborg is actually Glenboig. The marriage is listed as being in the District of New Monkland in Lanarkshire.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Apr 2018 16:47

Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image

HIGGINBOTHAM
JAMES
GREECHAN
JULIA
1940
651/ 329
Airdrie or New Monkland

Result from Scotlands People website on search.

Register and buy credits - £7.50 for 30. Search is free, 6 credits to view image and download

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 16:49

Hi Greyghost, I've already transcribed the detals of that 1940 marriage.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Apr 2018 16:54

Have a few spare credits -

2 Nov. 1940 at St /joseph's Church, Glenboig after publication according to the forms of the Roman Catholic Church

James Higginbotham.
Winston Quarry Lugger (Royal Marine) Bachelor. Age 23.
Usual residence - Engaged in War Service
Father - Michael Higginbotham Royal Marine
Mother - Maggie Higginbotham nee McArdle (deceased)

Julia Greechan
Brick worker. spinster
70 Main Street, Glenboig
Father - Peter Greechan Coal Miner
Mother Julia Ann Greechan nee ?Linden (deceased)

Edward Douglas Catholic Priest, St Josephs', Glenboig

Witnesses

Gerard Bryne, 11 Main Street, Glenboig
Bridget Haggarty, 11 Glen Avenue, ? --- ston




greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Apr 2018 16:58

Well you did it far too quickly for me Kucinta and having used credits I shall leave it there. Yours wasn't there when I started. (lol)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:01

Maggie McArdle married Michael Higgonbotham in 1902 in Scotland.

Married 24th Dec at St Francis Church Glasgow. according to rites of Roman Catholic church.

Groom was Michael Joseph Higgonbotham Bachelor, Royal Marine. Address Royal Marine Barracks, Plymouth. His father was Patrick Higgonbotham , Blacksmith, and his mother Katherine Higgonbotham, m/s O'Brien.

Bride was Maggie McArdle domestic servant, spinster, of 20, Lower English Buildings, Glasgow. Her father was John McArdle Iron Furnace man, and mother was Margaret McArdle, m/s Cusson or Cussan

Witnessa Malachi McArdle and Annie (?) Quinn.

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 15 Apr 2018 17:04

Thank you folks - that is the tree for James H on Ancestry, but it is the part prior to James' birth in 1917 I am trying to sort out-the Ancestry tree does not add up and he (Michael in Oz) has incororated " my" McArdles into his tree making my gt grandmother Margaret Curran 9 when she married John McArdle and bearing children at 11. :-(

Edit at 17.08
Thank you all so much,that is a help as it pinpionts the move from Ireland to Scotland I will have to search the Irish records to see if I can take it further back

Thank you for using your credits Kucinta :-)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:07

Hi,

I'm adding the details of the 1902 marriage of Michael and Maggie to my previous post as I transcribe them.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:21

I had some free credits from an offer that had been highlighted by a GR member, so was happy to use them.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:32

Think this is Maggie and her parents in 1901. Father John's occupation seems right:

Name: John Mcardle
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret Mcardle
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 49 Alexander Row
Occupation: Blast Furnacemans Lab<<<<<<<<<<<
ED: 33
Household schedule number: 85
LINE: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_309
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mcardle 60<<<<<<<<<<<<
Margaret Mcardle 60<<<<<<<<<<<
James Mcardle 20
Maggie Mcardle 16<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
William Grassick 12
George Grassick 10
Thomas Calligan 30

Census says John came from Ireland. Margaret McArdle his wife was also born Ireland, as was daur Maggie.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2018 17:37

Maybe Michael's parents' marriage??
[I know not relevant to this thread, which is about Maggie McArdle's side of the family.]



Patrick Higginbottom
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Patrick Higginbottom
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Residence Place: 1 Fleet Market
Marriage Date: 28 Jan 1883
Marriage Place: St Andrew's, Dublin city, Dublin, Ireland
Parish Variants: St. Andrew's, Westland Row, Westland Row
Diocese: Dublin
Father: Michael
Mother: Mary
Spouse: Kate O'Brien

Kate's parents: Patrick & Annie

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:50

Could this be the marriage of John McArdle and Margaret Cusson/Cussan

Name: John McArdle
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1860
Marriage Place: Ballymacnab, Armagh, Ireland
Parish Variants: Ballymacnabb, Kilcluney, Kilcluny
Diocese: Armagh
Spouse: Margaret Carran

Witnesses are Rose Carran and Patrick McArdle

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 17:51

The McArdles in England in 1881? Malachi Mc Ardle was a witness at the wedding in 1902:

Name: John Mc Ardle
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Margt. Mc Ardle
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Harrington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: William Street
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Iron Works Labourer<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Piece: 5182
Folio: 34
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mc Ardle 35<<<<<<<<<<
Margt. Mc Ardle 30<<<<<<<<<<<
John Mc Ardle 13
Joseph Mc Ardle 10
Malachi Mc Ardle 6<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
James Mc Ardle 3
Thomks Mc Ardle 1
Patrick Mc Kee 25

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Apr 2018 18:00

Birth of Maggie's brother James :

James Mcardle
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: James Mcardle
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 May 1878
Birth Place: Legahan, Armagh, Ireland
Father: John Mcardle
Mother: Margaret Curran Mcardle
FHL Film Number: 256002


And baptism:

James McCardle
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: James McCardle
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1878
Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1878
Baptism Place: Ballymacnab, Armagh, Ireland
Residence Place: Broughan
Parish Variants: Ballymacnabb, Kilcluney, Kilcluny
Diocese: Armagh
Father: John McCardle
Mother: Margt Carren

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 15 Apr 2018 18:03

and baptism of Malachi?

Name: Malachi Mccardle
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1875
Birth Place: Antrim, Ireland
Father: John Mccardle
Mother: Margaret Curran
FHL Film Number: 255934

Scotland's people has the marriage of a malachi McArdle to Rose Agnew 1896
644/11 369 Hutchesontown

baptism of john jr on the 1881 census:

Name: John Mcardle
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1868
Baptism Date: 21 Jun 1868
Baptism Place: Ballymacnab, Armagh, Ireland
Residence Place: Segahan
Parish Variants: Ballymacnabb, Kilcluney, Kilcluny
Diocese: Armagh
Father: John Mcardle
Mother: Margt Carran

another son:

Name: Patrick McArdle
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1870
Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1870
Baptism Place: Ballymacnab, Armagh, Ireland
Residence Place: Seyshan
Parish Variants: Ballymacnabb, Kilcluney, Kilcluny
Diocese: Armagh
Father: John McArdle
Mother: Margt Canan

a daughter:

Name: Mary Anne McArdle
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1862
Baptism Date: 19 Jun 1862
Baptism Place: Ballymacnab, Armagh, Ireland
Residence Place: Segahan
Parish Variants: Ballymacnabb, Kilcluney, Kilcluny
Diocese: Armagh
Father: John McArdle
Mother: Margaret Corran