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21 Aug 2018 19:01 |
No help with the witnesses. This could possibly be Robert, perhaps a friend? Just going by location.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Ings House Farm, Old Boulby, Easington, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Robert Pennack Head Widower Male 55 1806 Farmer Of 116 Acres - Transcription Mary Andrew Daughter Married Female 23 1838 House Keeper - Transcription >>Robert Pennack Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Farmers Son William Pennack Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Farmers Son - Transcription Sarah Pennack Sister In Law Widow Female 48 1813 Farmers Widower Glaisdale, Yorkshire, England Transcription Alonzo Tate Servant Unmarried Male 19 1842 General Farm Servant Skelton, Yorkshire, England Transcription ???Hannah Ross Scholar Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Skelton, Yorkshire, England Transcription John R Andrew Grandson - Male 0 1861 - Easington, Yorkshire, England
This is Cyrus.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Village, Easington, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Cyrus Smith Head Married Male 32 1829 Schoolmaster & Reigstrar Of Births And Deaths York, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah B Smith Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah Bulmer Mother In Law Widow Female 67 1794 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England
I've edited this to include the rest of the household for the Pennacks. There is a Hannah Ross on this, not sure if she fits in somewhere? She appears to be the illegitimate daughter of a Margaret Ross.
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21 Aug 2018 18:16 |
A bit more info on this marriage record.
First name(s) Brown Last name Souther (labourer) Age 20 Birth year 1842 Residence Old Boulby Marriage year 1862 Marriage date 01 Mar 1862 Marriage place Easington in Cleveland Spouse's first name(s) Annabella Spouse's last name Ross (servant) Spouse's age 21 Spouse's residence Doulby (should read Boulby) Father's first name(s) David Father's last name Souther (labourer) Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Ross (shoemaker) County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Page 46 Archive Teesside Archives
They both made their marks. Witnesses were Robert Penzack? and Cyrus? Smith.
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21 Aug 2018 16:53 |
Re your amendment - for our reference -
Annabella Ross in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Annabella Ross Gender: Female Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1862 Marriage Place: Easington Near Guisborough,York,England Spouse: Brown Sowther FHL Film Number: 573988
Brown Souther in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Brown Souther Registration Year: 1862 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Guisborough Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 575 Records on Page: Name Annabella Ross Brown Souther
(The first record already posted by Mel, but copied here again for ease.)
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Marian
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21 Aug 2018 16:36 |
Please see amendment
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15 Apr 2018 17:30 |
Thank you both (just got in).
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15 Apr 2018 15:41 |
One of these ??
Mary Metcalfe England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 22 May 1816 EASINGTON NEAR GUISBOROUGH, YORK, ENGLAND father: Paul Metcalfe mother: Mary Mary Metcalfe England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 28 January 1811 EASINGTON IN CLEVELAND, YORK, ENGLAND father: John Metcalfe mother: Sarah
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15 Apr 2018 15:33 |
Possibly David's parents' marriage ? Great Ayton, Stokesley, and Crathorne are all villages in the district of Hambledon (per Wikipedia).
David Souter mentioned in the record of David Souter and Hannah Blackburne Name David Souter Spouse's Name Hannah Blackburne Event Date 14 Feb 1802 Event Place Crathorne,York,England England Marriages, 1538–1973 Indexing Project (Batch) Number M10577-2 System Origin England-ODM
David Souter mentioned in the record of David Souter and Hannah Blackburne Name David Souter Spouse's Name Hannah Blackburne Event Date 16 Feb 1802 Event Place Great Ayton,York,England England Marriages, 1538–1973 Indexing Project (Batch) Number M00902-1 System Origin England-ODM GS Film number 894235, 942.74 B4PR V. 90 GS Film number 919055
And possibly in 1841:
David Souter England and Wales Census, 1841 Name David Souter Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Stokesley, Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding, England Residence Note South Row Gender Male Age 55-59 Age (Original) 55 Birth Year (Estimated) 1782-1786 Birthplace Yorkshire Registration District Stokesley Parish Stokesley County Yorkshire,Yorkshire North Riding Page Number 6 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1259/26 Affiliate Record Type Household David Souter M 55-59 Yorkshire Hannah Souter F 60-64 Yorkshire Ann Souter F 25-29 Yorkshire
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Apr 2018 14:59 |
SOUTER, ANN Mothers maiden name METCALF GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 24 Page 400 Order SOUTER, HANNAH MMN METCALF GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 24 Page 361
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Apr 2018 14:48 |
1881??
Name: David Souter Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Souter Gender: Male Where born: Easington, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Easington in Guisbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Marital Status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Agtl Laborer Registration district: Guisborough ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: Piece: 4839 Folio: 41 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age David Souter 68 Mary Souter 68 Emma Souter 32 Mary Ann Souter 7 Annie Pearson 11<<<<Niece David Gullan 27
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Marian
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15 Apr 2018 14:35 |
Hello Sylivia, Mel and AG, I have only just see the above as I had logged off after my last post. Thank you for the additional info and thank you for the headstone which is my David and Mary ancestor. Much appreciation to you all of you.
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15 Apr 2018 13:43 |
David Souter England Births and Christenings Name David Souter Gender Male Christening Date 19 Sep 1815 Christening Date (Original) 19 SEP 1815 Christening Place STOKESLEY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name David Souter Mother's Name Hannah
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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15 Apr 2018 12:35 |
Marriage Name: Annabella Ross Gender: Female Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1862 Marriage Place: Easington Near Guisborough,York,England Spouse: Brown Sowther FHL Film Number: 573988
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Apr 2018 00:31 |
I saw this while looking on FMP, is it your David??
England Billion Graves Cemetery Index
Record set England Billion Graves Cemetery Index First name(s) David Last name Souter Birth year - Death year 1893 City Easington County - Country England Cemetery Easington All Saints church, Yorkshire Death date 28 Dec 1893 Image link http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/David-Souter/24067936 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from England, United Kingdom
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Apr 2018 00:13 |
If the Banns were read only on 2 occasions, maybe the marriage did not happen and they lived common-law. But it is then possible that the marriage took place much later
Often the cause for a marriage not taking place was that one of the spouses had previously been married.
David is shown as 20 on the 1841 and Mary as 25 ............. but ages were rounded DOWN to the nearest 5 on that census, so David could have been between 20 and 24 and Mary between 25 and 29
She could be the one that was already married??????????????
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Marian
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14 Apr 2018 23:45 |
Thanks safc, I wonder how may variations of his name there is going to be - lol.
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14 Apr 2018 23:38 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Boulby Rockhole, Easington, Guisborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place David Southern Male 20 1821 Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary Southern Female 25 1816 Yorkshire, England Transcription Thomas Southern Male 1 1840 Yorkshire, England Transcription Robert Southern Male 18 1823 Yorkshire, England
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Marian
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14 Apr 2018 23:26 |
Thank you also Nyx.
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14 Apr 2018 23:15 |
First name(s) David Last name Souther Banns year 1839 Banns date 07 ? 1839 Marriage year 1839 Place Easington in Cleveland Residence Egton Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Metcalf Spouse's residence Easington County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive reference - Page 31 Archive Teesside Archives Record set Yorkshire Banns Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain Transcription © Findmypast
Banns read on 7th and 14th but It doesn't look like the banns were read on the third Sunday?
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14 Apr 2018 23:13 |
SOUTER, THOMAS METCALF Order GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in GUISBROUGH Volume 24 Page 333
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14 Apr 2018 23:12 |
Thanks safc
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