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8 Jun 2018 06:47 |
Thanks AustinQ I didn't have a record of all the births and some I had taken from Census records were slightly different so I appreciate the Information above.
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3 Jun 2018 12:16 |
Births:
PINNINGTON, JAMES LITTLER GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 455
PINNINGTON, DAVID LITTLER GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 500
PENNINGTON, JOHN LITTLER GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 579
PENNINGTON, MARY ELLEN LITTLER GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 619 (died 1866)
PENNINGTON, ELLEN LITTLER GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 632 (died 1867)
PENNINGTON, MARY LITTLER GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 615 (died 1868)
PENNINGTON, THOMAS LITTLER GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 632
PENNINGTON, WILLIAM LITTLER GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 658
PENNINGTON, MARY ELLEN LITTLER GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 649
PENNINGTON, ALFRED LITTLER GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 661
PENNINGTON, AGNES LITTLER GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 727
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3 Jun 2018 12:05 |
Brother David's birth, just for confirmation of mms:
PINNINGTON, DAVID mms LITTLER GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 500
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3 Jun 2018 12:05 |
The fact that Mary and Peter are living with Mary's brother in 1901 confirms that the 1872 birth with maiden name Littler is correct.
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3 Jun 2018 11:41 |
Yes this is what I had recorded but I think there was another Mary E Pennington born in 1872 in Lancashire and I wasn't sure if I had the correct Information, I only New that my Mary Ellen married Peter Marsh.
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3 Jun 2018 11:08 |
Mary Ellen with Mum in 1881:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 96, Wilson Street, Eccleston, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Mary Pennington Head Widow Female 45 1836 St Helens, Lancashire, England Housekeeper James Pennington Son Head Married Male 24 1857 St Helens, Lancashire Glass Cutter Alice Pennington Sons Wife Married Female 22 1859 St Helens, Lancashire, Housekeeper David Pennington Son Single Male 21 1860 St Helens, Lancashire Insurance Agent Mary E Pennington Daughter Single Female 9 1872 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Alfred Pennington Son Single Male 8 1873 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Agnes Pennington Daughter Single Female 5 1876 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar. ---------------------
Mary Ellen's birth:
PENNINGTON, MARY ELLEN mmn: LITTLER GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 649 ----------------------------
Brother David, and her Mum & Dad in 1871:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Top Sawney, Sutton, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Thomas Pennington Head - Male 41 1830 - Lancashire, England Mary Pennington Wife - Female 36 1835 - Lancashire, England James Pennington Son - Male 14 1857 - Lancashire, England David Pennington Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England
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3 Jun 2018 11:06 |
For reference- she has brothers, David and Alfred:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 203, Windleshaw Road, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England
David Pennington Head Single Male 41 1860 St Helens, Lanc Insurance Agent Peter Marsh Brother-In-Law Married Male 26 1875 St Helens, Lancashire, Glass Metal Gatherer Mary E Marsh Sister Married Female 29 1872 St Helens, Lancashire, England - Mary Pennington Mother Widow Female 65 1836 Lancashire, England - Alfred Pennington Brother Single Male 28 1873 St Helens, Lancashire, England Glass Wks Labourer -------------------------------
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 18 Havelock St St Helens, St Helens, Lancashire, England
Peter Marsh Husband Married Male 36 1875 Lancs St Helens Glassmaker Blower Mary Ellen Marsh Wife Married Female 37 1874 Lancs St Helens - Agnes Marsh Daughter - Female 9 1902 Lancs St Helens School Elsie Marsh Daughter - Female 6 1905 Lancs St Helens School Jundher Marsh Grandfather Widower Male 72 1839 Lancs St Helens Pensioned Glass Works Labourer Samuel Marsh Uncle - Male 41 1870 Lancs St Helens Labourer At Glassworks
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3 Jun 2018 10:12 |
Could anyone please confirm the parents of Mary Ellen Pennington born c1872 who married Peter Marsh
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3 Jun 2018 09:17 |
Yes this does appear to tie in thank you for the research, It also confirms his wife as Mary Flood as I had picked up from other public Ancestry trees Mary Ford.
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3 Jun 2018 09:11 |
Well- AG has found his wife in 1871- she's a widow. So the above death for 1862 seems likely
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3 Jun 2018 09:10 |
Yes you are correct my James is the coal miner but I haven't found him in 1871 or 1881 other than Kings Moss Farm and not confirmed his death records ?
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3 Jun 2018 09:06 |
Marriage:
First name(s) James Last name Pinnington Name note - Marriage year 1829 Marriage date 30 Mar 1829 Marriage place Prescot Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Flood Residence Prescot, Lancashire, England --------------------------
Births: PINNINGTON, MARY mmn: FLOOD GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 700
PINNINGTON, JAMES mmn: FLOOD GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 820
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3 Jun 2018 09:02 |
So - James's death ??
PENNINGTON, JAMES 58 GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 366
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3 Jun 2018 09:02 |
Death?: PENNINGTON, JAMES age: 58 GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 366
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3 Jun 2018 08:59 |
Mary's a widow by 1871:
Mary Pennington in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Pennington Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Windle Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 269 Piece: 3863 Folio: 85 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Mary Pennington 67 James Pennington 25 Ann Dearden 30
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3 Jun 2018 08:46 |
Just putting these census for my reference. Immediate thoughts are that it's not the man. If this is your James, he was a coal miner.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bridge Street, Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Pinington Male 35 1806 Lancashire, England Mary Pinington Female 35 1806 Lancashire, England Thomas Pinington Male 11 1830 Lancashire, England Alice Pinington Female 4 1837 Lancashire, England Mary Pinington Female 1 1840 Lancashire, England Ann Pinington Female 9 1832 Lancashire, England -----------------------------
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bridge Street, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Pinnington Head Married Male 47 1804 Coal Miner St Helens, Lancashire, Mary Pinnington Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Warrington, Lancashire, England Thomas Pinnington Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Coal Miner St Helens, Lancashire Ann Pinnington Daughter - Female 19 1832 Dressmaker St Helens, Lancashire, England Alice Pinnington Daughter - Female 15 1836 Scholar St Helens, Lancashire, England Mary Pinnington Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar St Helens, Lancashire, England James Pinnington Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar St Helens, Lancashire, England -----------------------------------
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Boundary Road, Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Pinington Head Married Male 57 1804 Coal Miner St Helens, Lancashire Mary Pinington Wife Married Female 57 1804 - Harrington, Lancashire, Anne Dearden Daughter Married Female 28 1833 Dressmaker St Helens, Lancashire, James Pinington Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Glass Cutter St Helens, Lancashire -------------------------------
Do you have him in 1871? Or perhaps this isn't your family- they seem to be listed fairly consistently as Pinnington:
England, Births & Baptisms First name(s) Thomas Last name Pinnington Gender Male Baptism year 1830 Baptism date 1830 Residence St Helens, Lancashire, England Place St Helens County Lancashire Father's name(s) James Pinnington Mother's first name(s) Mary
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3 Jun 2018 08:45 |
for our reference:
James Pennington in the 1881 England Census Name: James Pennington Age: 77 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relationship to Head: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Bickerstaffe, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Rainford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Kings Moss Farm Occupation: Farm Lab Registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Piece: 3741 Folio: 51 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age John Pennington 60 Margaret Pennington 55 William Pennington 20 John Pennington 19 Edward Pennington 18 James Pennington 77 Elizabeth Fishwick 40 - servant
It says James is unmarried. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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3 Jun 2018 07:21 |
Hi
Thomas's(1831) father was James Pennington (1804) I was wondering if this was the same James Pennington aged 77 living with his brother at Kings Moss Farm Rainford in the 1881 census as I can't confirm James parents or siblings ?
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3 Apr 2018 13:47 |
Can't see a death for Thomas, which is why I've been looking to see if perhaps he and Mary had separated.
Possibly his death has been recorded with the wrong age.
This one might be the most likely:
Deaths Sep 1872 (>99%) PINNINGTON Thomas 40 Prescott 8b 425
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3 Apr 2018 13:21 |
My Thomas is the one that married Mary Littler (appreciate this information as I didn't know this ) but after the 1871 census he is not with Mary and she is recorded as a Widow in the 1881 census, Is there a death record for Thomas ? Appreciate all the help :-)
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