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Apologies for my late reply - but THANK YOU to all of you who have helped me with this one!!

I found a marriage for a Albert G Smith to a Dorothy M Salkeld in 1934 at Plantagenent (near Albany) in Western Australia

Also found a death for a Albert George Smith in 1961 at Swan District Perth,with parents William J & Elizabeth Buried Midland Cemetery Presbyterian Section B Grave 0015

(can't see it on Trove, but below was reference)

http://ryersonindex.org/search.php

Chris :)

http://ryersonindex.org/lookup.htm

(where it can be got)

Re William John 1888 -

the tree on Ancestry has a scan of his death notice in a newspaper - the "Herald" [?]


Smith, William John - July 6 1959, at hospital, late of 12 Fullford Street, Dundas, also late of Binnaway, dearly beloved husband of Gladys May Smith, and loving father of Gwendolin (Mrs Phillips), David George, Maisie Joan (Mrs Hutchinson), and Alan Douglas, aged 71 years. At rest. See Wednesday's "Herald" for funeral particulars.


Funeral notice:

The relatives and friends of the late William John Smith of 12 Fullford Street, Dundas, are invited to attend his Funeral: to leave the Chapel of Motor Funerals Ltd, 4 East Parade, Eastwood, at 2.45 o'clock for the Rookwood Crematorium.

I don't see David after 1891 - but don't see his death either, at least not in Hampshire.

Right area, wrong age:

.Deaths Sep 1893 (>99%)
Smith David 44 Portsea 2b 319

(wonder which one on below for him then?, give Parents names)...

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/deaths?7

Chris :)

(probably the one below without, lol)

Death
SMITH WILLIAM JOHN
23154/1959
71 YEARS
AUBURN RYDE


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(probably something somewhere on above)


(would be below reference)

Marriage
5367/1914
SMITH WILLIAM
FITZPATRICK MAY
NEWTOWN

Re the son William John 1888 -

A tree on Ancestry says he married and died in Australia -

Married Gladys May Fitzpatrick in Newtown, NSW, 15 April 1914.
Died 6 July 1959, Dundas, NSW.
Four children: Gwendoline May, David George, Maisie Joan, and Alan Douglas.

To go with Western Australia Passenger 1923 posted earlier...

Chris :)

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

Death
Smith Albert George Male 71 (Father) William J (Mother) Elizabeth Swan 190 1961

(also on FMP)

Western Australia Death Index

First name(s) Albert George
Last name Smith
Death year 1961
Birth year 1890
State Western Australia
Country Australia
Place Swan
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Father's first name(s) William J


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=780951.0

(relating to Albert, same person with Gates query on other link)


(also has mention of Staunton Road)

Miss E. M. WYATT, 60 of 18 Staunton Rd, Havant, England who disembarked at Fremantle off the R.M.S Orontes from London on 30th December 1948.



Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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WYATT Ethel May Havant 2b 426


1939 Register (Find My Past)

18 Staunton Road , Havant and Waterlooville U.D., Hampshire,
Ethel M Smith (Wyatt) 20 Apr 1888 Female Domestic Service Single
Leonard W Wyatt 28 Apr 1895 Male Poultry Farm Labourer Single
Lilian F Johnson (Holcomb) 05 Aug 1923 Female At School Single

I just need to get the basics before looking.

William's birth:
SMITH, WILLIAM JOHN mmn: STRATTON
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in HAVANT Volume 02B Page 373
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Baptism:
First name(s) William John
Last name Smith
Birth date 08 Dec 1866
Baptism date 13 Jan 1867
Baptism place Purbrook
Dedication St John the Baptist
Denomination Anglican
Residence Stakes
Father's first name(s) David
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Hampshire
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Parent's marriage:
Name(s) David Smith
Age 24
Birth year 1842
Denomination Anglican
Marital status Bachelor
Occupation Labourer
Residence Stakes
Marriage year 1866
Marriage date 20 May 1866
Marriage place Farlington
Dedication St Andrew
Spouse's name(s) Elizabeth Stratton
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's birth year 1843
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence Stakes
Father's name(s) John Smith
Father's occupation Labourer
Spouse's father's name(s) William Stratton
Spouse's father's occupation Dealer
Witness 1 Emily Smith
Witness 2 William Stratton
County Hampshire

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778005.0

(above from google search, Alfred John Gates)

Chris :)

https://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/

(above useful for IOW, Death refences posted earlier, as below)

(Name: BUTT, Rose Adele
Year of death: 1963)

(Name: BUTT, William Harry
Year of death: 1935)


Birth
SMITH, WILLIAM JOHN (CHEVERALLS)
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 05A Page 324


Smith William John 1888 — 1899-1919 British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924 Weymouth, Dorset, England (Find My Past)
(Born 18th February 1888, occ. Fishmonger) (served on HMS Powerful 1908. Steward)

Apologies for not replying any sooner - life just got in the way since I started this post.

Am very grateful for the information you have found so far!! Would have struggled to find a lot of this stuff......

Does anyone know what happened to either William John Smith & his father David Smith??

For reference - I descend from Jane Tizard Chiveralls & Albert Richard Smith (my great grandparents!).

Elizabeth Chiveralls is 1/2 sister to Jane Chiveralls. Their father married twice. Elizabeth is from the 1st marriage, Jane from the 2nd. Half sisters leading to half cousins etc...........

Thanks again.

Grace's death.

First name(s) GRACE MARIE
Last name MULLINS
Gender Female
Birth day 17
Birth month 2
Birth year 1896
Death quarter 4
Death year 1977
District South East Hampshire
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 1645


also down as Marie Grace.

First name(s) MARIE GRACE
Last name MULLINS
Gender Female
Birth day 17
Birth month 2
Birth year 1896
Death quarter 4
Death year 1977
District South East Hampshire
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 1645

Here is the full 1911 for her.



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48 Derby Road North End Portsmouth, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Harry Head Head Married Male 38 1873 Sussex Eastbourne Batchers Manager
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Alice Head Wife Married Female 39 1872 Sussex Eastbourne -
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Reginald Percy Head Son Single Male 17 1894 Sussex Eastbourne Butcher
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Sidney Herbert Head Son - Male 13 1898 Sussex Eastbourne School
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George Ewart Head Son - Male 9 1902 Sussex Nothing -
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Harry Claude (Head) Son - Male 7 1904 Sussex Eastbourne -
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Alfred Horace Claude (should be Head) Son - Male 2 1909 Hampshire Southampton -
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Grace Smith Servant - Female 15 1896 Hampshire Havant General Servant Domestic

Could this be Grace in 1939? Marie Grace is written above her name.


Mullins Household (5 People) 109 West Street , Havant and Waterlooville U.D., Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Grace M (Marie) Mullins 17 Feb 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 184 2
Henry Mullins 18 Jul 1896 Male General Labourer Heavy Worker Married 184 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Doris E Harmer (Mullins) 11 Jun 1928 Female At School Single 184 4
Douglas H (Henry) Mullins 12 May 1931 Male At School Single 184 5



Yes, here we go.


First name(s) HENRY
Last name MULLINS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1919
MarriageFinder™ HENRY MULLINS married
Grace M Smith
District Havant
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2B
Page number 1269


Children?


Births Mar 1924
Mullins Charles H Smith Havant 2b 594

Births Jun 1926
Mullins Peggy G Smith Havant 2b 578

Births Sep 1928
Mullins Doris E Smith Havant 2b 577

Births Jun 1931
Mullins Douglas H Smith Havant 2b 619




Mullins Charles H 1924 1925 1925 Civil Deaths & Burials Havant, Hampshire, England

Marie Grace is down as just Grace in the school registers so the above census could be her.


National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription

First name(s) Grace
Last name Smith
Birth year 1896
Birth date 17 Feb 1896
Event year 1899
School name Havant National/Church of England School
Town Havant
County Hampshire
Country England
Address Union
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions
Archive reference 259M86/A3

Marie Grace??

1911 48,Derby Road North end Portsmouth
Grace Smith 1896 born Havant

Harry head 1873 Eastbourne is head of house.

Maryb.

Thanks for checking that Mary

The Alice Elsie May Smith born 1899 was the daughter of Albert Richard Smith and Jane Tizard Chiveralls married 1893.

Alice is with them 1901/1911.

Maryb.

Births Dec 1864 (>99%)
Chivrells Elizabeth Martha Weymouth 5a 299


GATES, ALICE BEATRICE CHIVERALL Order
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in HAVANT Volume 02B Page 404

GATES, EMILY LOUISA CHIVERALL Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in HAVANT Volume 02B Page 396

In the 1911 census (as posted above) Elizabeth and Alfred claim to have been married for 9 years, but I can't see any record on freebmd to support the claim

SMITH, ALBERT GEORGE CHIVERALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 410

SMITH, ELIZABETH FANNY CHIVERALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 469

SMITH, MARIE GRACE CHIVERALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in HAVANT Volume 02B Page 405

SMITH, ROSINA ALICE CHIVERALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 05A Page 302

SMITH, ALICE ELSIE MAY CHIVERALLS Order
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 05A Page 301