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helina
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27 Mar 2018 11:35 |
I have received a marriage certificate between George Wride age 20 Sawyer, and Sarah Jane New, age 20. Year 1855 married in Clifton Bristol. Bit of a shock as the father's name is George Wride, sawyer. I always thought that George, junior's father was called Daniel and his mother Mary Christopher. I have searched ancestry and can find no George with George as his father, plenty of information on Daniel with a son called George. Where to go next as his birth was pre 1837. There is a marriage entry on familysearch again naming George Wride as the father but no birth of young George.
Any help would be appreciated
helina
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greyghost
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27 Mar 2018 11:55 |
For our info - this is the family you believe are yours?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tylers Street, St Philip & Jacob Without, Clifton, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Daniel Wride Male 25 1816 ** listed as a Sawyer Mary Wride Female 25 1816 George Wride Male 6 1835 Victoria Wride Female 3 1838 Eliza Wride Female 1 1840 William Richards Male 15 1826
All born out of County
the only other Wride family showing with a George about the right age are in and from Somerset. Head of family James b c 1792-1796. In Mark, Axbridge, Somerset
Can you post all details from the marriage certificate please, to see if any clues.
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greyghost
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27 Mar 2018 12:11 |
It certainly appears that Daniel was marrried to a Christopher
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WRIDE, VICTORIA ANN CHRISTOPHER Order GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 280 WRIDE, ELIZA CHRISTOPHER Order GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION Volume 11 Page 263
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27 Mar 2018 12:22 |
Just following the family through - mistranscribed 1851, but from a poorly written original!
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 20, Princes Street, St Philip & St Jacob (Without), Clifton, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Daniel Wide Head Married Male 35 1816 Sawyer Hanham, Gloucestershire, England Mary Wide Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Pentlow, Essex, England George Wide Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England John Reese Visitor Unmarried Male 13 1838 Portillion's Son Neath, Glamorgan, Wales Ann Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Eliza Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1841 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Harriett Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Sarah Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Susan Wide Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1851 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Could the vicar at George's marriage have just made a mistake and written his name in the Father's slot too ????
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PricklyHolly
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27 Mar 2018 12:32 |
In case you don't have this......
George Wride in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: George Wride Gender: Male Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1836 Baptism Place: St. Philip and St. Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Daniel Wride Mother: Mary
I have the same thoughts as GreyGhost about the vicar making a mistake on the marriage record.
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Rambling
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27 Mar 2018 12:39 |
I agree with Greyghost, looks like a mistake.
WRIDE, DANIEL 49 Order GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 30
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27 Mar 2018 12:42 |
Another version of the Baptism posted by PH - shows George to be 1 month old at the time
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
First name(s) George Last name Wride Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1836 Baptism date 14 Aug 1836 Baptism age 1M Residence Bristol, Gloucester, England Place Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Father's first name(s) Daniel Father's last name Wride Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name -
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helina
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27 Mar 2018 14:22 |
Greyghost. here goes
Marriage solemnized at the parish church in the parish of ?? cannot understand the writing, in the city of Bristol. Married on the 15th July 1855 George Wride age 20, bachelor, Sawyer, Stokes Croft, father George Wride Sawyer Sarah Jane New age 20, spinster, Stoke Croft, father Stephen New Blacksmith
Witnesses John Lackhurst ?
Emma Evans
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helina
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27 Mar 2018 14:25 |
I have Victoria Ann Wride's birth certificate and her parents certainly are Daniel and Mary Wride
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28 Mar 2018 07:38 |
As Daniel below...
Chris :)
14 May 1842 - Bristol Times and Mirror - Bristol, Bristol, England
Accidents. May 12 - Daniel Wride aged 26, and H. Oram aged 21, were engaged at the scaffold sawpits of the Exeter Railway Company in Temple Mead, and while assisting to raise through the medium of the crane, a heavy piece of timber, on the top of the sawpit, the chains by which it was suspended, suddenly gave way, and the huge mass fell with great force upon the two men, producing fracture of the thigh bone of the former, and a similar fracture of the thigh of the latter. We are informed that both men are doing well.
(perhaps him below)
1851 (Find My Past) Henry Oram Lodger - Male 28 1823 Sawyer Somerset, England 16, Great James Street, St James, Bristol, Gloucestershire,
(the 'other' George)
Baptism County Somerset Place Mark Church name (with link) St Mark Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 1291 Baptism date 23 Apr 1837 Person forename George Person sex m Father forename James Mother forename Mary Father surname WRIDE Person abode Mark Father occupation Labourer
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
1841 (Find My Past) Steven New Male 40 1801 (Smith) Mary New Female 40 1801 William New Male 20 1821 Mary New Female 15 1826 Emma New Female 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England Elizabeth New Female 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England Eliza New Female 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England John New Male 9 1832 Gloucestershire, England Sarah New Female 5 1836 Gloucestershire, England York Street, St Philip & Jacob Without, Clifton, Gloucestershire,
1851 Steven New Head Married Male 53 1798 General Smiths Wiltshire, England Mary New Wife Married Female 55 1796 - Tadley, Hampshire, England John New Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Smith Bristol, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England Sarah New Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 - Bristol, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England 28, York Street, St Philip & St Jacob (Out), Clifton, Gloucestershire,
Where are George/Sarah 1861?...Edits (Australia, by looks of below)
https://australianroyalty.net.au/family.php?famid=F9458&ged=purnellmccord.ged
Death 1922 B36727 George Wride (Father) Daniel Wride Mary Christopher https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
https://tinyurl.com/y8fgk55z
(above with photo 1922)
https://tinyurl.com/yd2b673d
(mention of 'Born in Bristol July 1836')
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(both articles taken from above)
Death 1885 B17967 Sarah Jane Wride (Father) Stephen New Mary - ** born England aged 49 years
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PricklyHolly
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28 Mar 2018 15:51 |
George Frederick Wride in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: George Frederick Wride Registration Year: 1856 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Clifton Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 88
George Frederick Wride in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: George Frederick Wride Baptism Date: 2 Nov 1856 Baptism Place: Bristol, St Philip and Jacob, Gloucestershire, England Father: George Wride Mother: Sarah Wride
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helina
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28 Mar 2018 17:55 |
Interesting, always good to hear about some social history, the 2 men where lucky to survive.
Yes Sarah and George went to Australia in 1857, sadly on route their oldest son George died.
Thanks for your help.
helina
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