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brummiejan
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25 Mar 2018 09:46 |
Good morning all. Another one of my challenges! Please can anyone tell me if it is possible to find a death for a British subject in India sometime after 1924? I've tried googling but no luck as yet. Thanks. Jan x
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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25 Mar 2018 11:04 |
If they were there as employees of the East India Company then you may find records
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Dea
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25 Mar 2018 11:40 |
It is possible that it might have been mentioned in a British Newspaper?
Do you want to give us some details so that we can take a look?
Dea x
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brummiejan
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25 Mar 2018 11:45 |
Thanks Shirley. Please could you tell me where these might be found?
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ArgyllGran
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25 Mar 2018 11:53 |
Suggestions -
https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/
FMP: https://tinyurl.com/ya7e97zm
https://indiafamily.bl.uk/ui/IorIntro.aspx
FamilySearch: https://tinyurl.com/yb8j3wzs
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brummiejan
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25 Mar 2018 11:54 |
Sorry Dea, crossed posts! This is for someone else, and her info is very limited, so please bear with me. Her birth name was Melita/Malita May Cork born 1902 Dover. Her family moved to India at some point and she married a Bernard Smith in Bombay in 1924. The family story goes that she died in childbirth, and that's all they have really. Her parents died in India, some of her siblings left & ended up all over the place. x
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brummiejan
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25 Mar 2018 11:55 |
And thanks to Argyllgran too x
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ArgyllGran
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25 Mar 2018 12:16 |
Just for our reference:
Bernard Os Smith in the India, Select Marriages, 1792-1948 Name: Bernard Os Smith Gender: Male Age: 26 Birth Date: 1898 Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1924 Marriage Place: Karachi, Bombay, India Father: Henry R. Smith Spouse: Melita May Cork FHL Film Number: 528105
Bernard Oswald Smith in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Name: Bernard Oswald Smith Gender: Male Birth Date: 18 Feb 1898 Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1898 Baptism Age: 0 Baptism Place: Quetta, Bengal, India Father: Henry Robert Smith Mother: Amy FHL Film Number: 512367
Bernard Oswaald Smith in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Bernard Oswaald Smith Death Age: 78 Birth Date: 18 Feb 1898 Registration Date: Jun 1976 Registration district: Wandsworth Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 15 Page: 1308
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brummiejan
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25 Mar 2018 13:27 |
Thanks a million for that info Argyllgran, great find. Another bit of the jigsaw! Much appreciated. :-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Mar 2018 10:24 |
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Just as info comes up
Name: Melita May Cork Registration Year: 1902 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Dover Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1042
Name: Malita May Cork Gender: Female Birth Place: 40 Trevanion Street Baptism Date: 11 May 1902 Baptism Place: Dover, Kent, England Father: Edward Cork Mother: Lily Jane Cork FHL Film Number: 1786362
Name: Melita May Cork Gender: Female Age: 22 Birth Date: 1902 Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1924 Marriage Place: Karachi, Bombay, India Father: Edward Cork Spouse: Bernard Os Smith FHL Film Number: 528105
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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26 Mar 2018 10:37 |
A possible View England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Melita May Smith Death Date: 18 Aug 1990 Death Place: Portsmouth Hants Probate Date: 3 Oct 1900 Registry: Winchester
Edit no it's the wrong lady
Melita May Smith Death Age: 65 Birth Date: 26 Apr 1925 Registration Date: Aug 1990 Registration district: Southampton Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 20 Page: 987
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ArgyllGran
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26 Mar 2018 10:57 |
You probably have all this, Jan - but in case not:
Melita's parents:
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%) Cork Edward Beaminster 5a 759 Downton Lily Jane Beaminster 5a 759
Edward Cork in the England, Select Dorset Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1999 Name: Edward Cork Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 5 May 1901 Marriage Place: Corscombe, Dorset, England Spouse: Lily Jane Downton FHL Film Number: 002427491
Births of a couple of sisters of Melita:
Bertha Beatrice Cork in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Name: Bertha Beatrice Cork Gender: Female Birth Date: 16 Aug 1903 Baptism Date: 8 Oct 1903 Baptism Age: 0 Baptism Place: Quetta, Bengal, India Father: Edward Cork Mother: Lily Jane FHL Film Number: 527519
Helen Louisa Beatrice Cork in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947 Name: Helen Louisa Beatrice Cork Gender: Female Birth Date: 7 Dec 1908 Birth Place: Bombay, India Baptism Date: 17 Jan 1909 Baptism Age: 0 Baptism Place: Bolaha, Bombay, India Father: Edward Cork Mother: Lilly Jane FHL Film Number: 523891
Ancestry suggests this is Edward in 1891:
Edward Cork in the 1891 England Census Name: Edward Cork Gender: Male Age: 19 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1872 Father: Charles Cork Birth Place: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England Civil Parish: Aldershot Residence Place: Aldershot, Aldershot, Hampshire, England Sub registration district: Frimley ED, Institution or Vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 563 Folio: 143 Household Members: Name Age Charles Cork 59 Elizabeth Cork 57 Edward Cork 19 - Post Office clerk Maria Lusia Cork 15 Beatrice Cork 11 Mahalah Ellen Cork 47 Joseph Stevens 75
His father was born in Bengal, and the rest of the family in various places in England.
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ArgyllGran
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26 Mar 2018 11:01 |
Lily Jane Downton in the Dorset, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Lily Jane Downton Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1876 Baptism Place: Glanvilles Wootton, Dorset, England Father: Herbert Downton Mother: Ellen Downton
Aha! Both Lily and Edward in 1901:
Lilly Jane Downton in the 1901 England Census Name: Lilly Jane Downton Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Herbert Downton Mother: Ellen Downton Birth Place: Glanville Wooton, Dorset, England Civil Parish: Corscombe Ecclesiastical parish: Corscombe St Mary County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Beaminster Sub-registration district: Evershot ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2009 Folio: 6 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Downton 52 Ellen Downton 50 Lilly Jane Downton 24 Arthur John Downton 15 Christopher Downton 16 Alfred Ernest Downton 14 Bertha Elsie Downton 12 Margaret May Downton 8 Edward Cork 27 - visitor - soldier - born Tunbridge Wells
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ArgyllGran
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26 Mar 2018 11:07 |
Lily Jane Cork in the India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948 Name: Lily Jane Cork Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Age: 56 Birth Date: 1873 Death Date: 15 Jun 1929 Burial Date: 16 Jun 1929 Burial Place: Bombay, India Spouse: Edward Cork FHL Film Number: 462976
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ArgyllGran
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26 Mar 2018 11:23 |
" Her family moved to India at some point"
I think from the records above, that it's likely that Edward was already serving in India, and Lily went with him after their marriage - or immediately after Melita's birth.
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ArgyllGran
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26 Mar 2018 11:34 |
A tree on Ancestry says that Edward died 1946 Karachi -- but doesn't offer proof.
The tree doesn't mention Melita, although lists several siblings - four brothers, and Helen. It does list a Milly, who is probably Melita - no dates given, suggested birth and death in India, but clearly a guess.
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