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4 Sep 2020 10:07 |
Help needed with this missing link..... I think as the rest of the census information is on this post, I will carry on from here so everyone can see the information I have to date. William Blackey, brother to Hannah (1806/7-?), Mary (1810/1813-?), and Sarah, now Sarah Simpson, widowed, (1815-?), emigrated to New Zealand with his family in 1854. It seems he made a number of journeys back to U.K. I have found a voyage 1872 from Victoria to Liverpool. Also 1888/9 coming from London to NSW, Sydney. It is possible he made other trips back as well.
Can anyone find other trips he made? Or help me trace what happened to Hannah, last mentioned on the 1851 census as far as I’ve discovered, Mary, on 1851,1861,and 1871 census living with Sarah, and at Birkenhead. I wondered if the journeys William made to U.K. coincided with deaths or family matters relating to the 3 sisters. Finally how would I go about finding out if they owned these properties rather than renting?
It’s a big ask I know to get information on all of this, but I’ve drawn a blank, and I know how helpful and resourceful you all are. Thanks a lot Glyn :-)
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4 Sep 2020 10:06 |
Help needed with this missing link..... I think as the rest of the census information is on this post, I will carry on from here so everyone can see the information I have to date. William Blackey, brother to Hannah (1806/7-?), Mary (1810/1813-?), and Sarah, now Sarah Simpson, widowed, (1815-?), emigrated to New Zealand with his family in 1854. It seems he made a number of journeys back to U.K. I have found a voyage 1872 from Victoria to Liverpool. Also 1888/9 coming from London to NSW, Sydney. It is possible he made other trips back as well.
Can anyone find other trips he made? Or help me trace what happened to Hannah, last mentioned on the 1851 census as far as I’ve discovered, Mary, on 1851,1861,and 1871 census living with Sarah, and at Birkenhead. I wondered if the journeys William made to U.K. coincided with deaths or family matters relating to the 3 sisters. Finally how would I go about finding out if they owned these properties rather than renting?
It’s a big ask I know to get information on all of this, but I’ve drawn a blank, and I know how helpful and resourceful you all are. Thanks a lot Glyn :-)
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30 Aug 2018 23:27 |
Another confusing thing I’ve found relating to previous information about Thomas Blackey. I looked up the Family search site as suggested and found Land Tax Assessments for Thomas Blackey for 1784, 1786, 1789 and 1791. I’m not really sure what these are, but I assumed they were rent for land and a house. I had Thomas death as 1786 but if he’s being taxed for land etc ( he’s a farmer) then is this posthumous charges or can anyone find another da The for his death as I’ve searched in vain. Can’t find a date of death for his wife Hannah either! Thank you Glyn
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27 Aug 2018 16:27 |
Also you were all great going back another generation to Thomas Blackey and Hannah Sutton and their children. I’ve found many Thomas Blackey’s ( common name!!) but I can’t get further back than him and Hannah. Can anyone help go further back please? Thanks again Glyn
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27 Aug 2018 16:17 |
That’s great. Thank you.
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27 Aug 2018 14:49 |
Mary Blackey in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Blackey Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: 1816 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Lower Bebington County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 2 [ Weston ?? ] Terrace Registration district: Wirral Sub-registration district: Eastham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 61 Piece: 2637 Folio: 44 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Mary Blackey 45 Sarah Simpson 42 - sister, widow Richard Addison 46 - lodger
Richard's still lodging with them in 1871.
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27 Aug 2018 13:26 |
That sounds more like it as she appears in this one place and then vanishes. Thank you. I couldn’t find Mary in 1861 census which is what threw me a bit
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27 Aug 2018 13:25 |
On 1871 census image, I agree that it says Kate.... but think she is noted as Serv not son.
Several other people on that page are noted similarly.
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27 Aug 2018 12:53 |
Maybe Kate in 1881 ??
Kate Concannon in the 1881 England Census Name: Kate Concannon Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 59 Edge Lane Occupation: Servant Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: West Derby (Rural) ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: Piece: 3715 Folio: 4 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John (Sr) Henderson 45 Edward Henderson 3 Rebecca Barnes 61 Eliza Yates 21 Ellen Barlow 16 Kate Concannon 27
She's in Bootle in 1891 and 1901. 1901 says she's married, which may be a mistake, as she's single before that.
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27 Aug 2018 12:47 |
For our reference (Ancestry's version):
Mary Blackey in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Blackey Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Tranmere Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Tranmere ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 254 Piece: 3751 Folio: 126 Page Number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Mary Blackey 60 Sarah Simpson 56 Cale Concannon 15 - general servant, domestic - born Ireland. John Thompson 24 Richard Addison 53
It says "son" but the age is in the female column. I think the name is Kate. The writer doesn't seem to cross any of his t's elsewhere in the document.
I suggest that Kate is no relation, but just the domestic servant, and that "son" is a complete mistake.
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27 Aug 2018 12:04 |
MYSTERIOUS SON....WHO IS HE? Hi everyone, I need your ingenuity to help me.... I’m not sure if this is the best “thread” to attach this enquiry to, but I know you like it to be attached to previous queries so apologies in advance if it’s not helpful!!… So Thomas Blackey 1766-1854 had a daughter called Mary Blackey. She never married. I’ve found her on the 1851 and 1871 and 1881 censuses. She was born Dec 1810 and died 1890 in Birkenhead. She lived with her widowed sister, Sarah Simpson ( nee Blackey, ) in the 1871 and 1881 censuses. So the mystery is with the 1871 census... It lists Mary and Sarah and a son aged 15 and it looks as though he’s called RAFE CONCORUM OR CONCONOM...see what you think. I checked the Irish census but there doesn’t seem to be any for 1860s. Mary vanishes from 1851-1871 censuses and I wondered if she had a “fling” in Ireland resulting in this son. The mystery is he’s on 1871 census but I can’t find any other mention of him!!! So I’m asking all you clever researchers to clear up this mystery person for me if you can.... Thank you
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11 Mar 2018 23:14 |
Thank you So is Findmypast where you found the adverts for the room rental and the criminal offence report? If it is can you tell me, do you just put the persons name in and the reports come up or do you have to put in very detailed information? I’m just amazed at how much you found out so quickly
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11 Mar 2018 22:12 |
FMP is the Findmypast website which has more records, it's a subscription site https://search.findmypast.co.uk
and https://www.familysearch.org/ is free to use but you need to register.
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11 Mar 2018 21:59 |
That’s a good help. What is FMP? Sorry I don’t know this abbreviation. And Family Search is a website? Does it go back further than Thomas siblings?
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11 Mar 2018 19:57 |
"Son of Thomas labourer and Hannah his wife"
First name(s) John Last name Blacky Birth year 1763 Baptism year 1763 Baptism date 21 Aug 1763 Place Neston County Cheshire Country England Mother's first name(s) - Father's first name(s) Thos Father's last name Blacky Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain Cheshire Archives and Local Studies
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11 Mar 2018 19:51 |
Ralph Blackey ( on FMP gives image, and father Thomas is listed as Farmer) England, Cheshire Parish Registers Name Ralph Blackey Event Type Christening Event Date 04 Jul 1773 Event Place , Neston, Cheshire, England Gender Male Father's Name Thos Blackey Mother's Name Hannah
Joseph Blackey England, Cheshire Parish Registers Name Joseph Blackey Event Type Christening Event Date 21 Apr 1771 Event Place , Neston, Cheshire, England Gender Male Father's Name Thos Blackey Mother's Name Hannah
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11 Mar 2018 19:50 |
Can be found on Familysearch also
Marg'Tt Blackey England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts Name Marg'Tt Blackey Event Type Christening Event Date 22 Jun 1759 Event Place Neston, Cheshire, England Gender Female Father's Name Thos. Blackey Mother's Name Hannah
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11 Mar 2018 19:48 |
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 First name(s) MARY Last name BLACKEY Age - Gender Female Birth year 1761 Birth date - Baptism year 1761 Baptism date 12 Apr 1761 Church - Place NESTON Father's first name(s) Thos. Father's last name Blackey Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - County Cheshire Country England Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts baptisms 1576-1906 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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11 Mar 2018 19:16 |
Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 First name(s) WILLIAM Last name B...CKY Age - Gender Male Birth year 1769 Birth date - Baptism year 1769 Baptism date 01 Oct 1769 Church - Place NESTON Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name B...Cky Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - County Cheshire Country England Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts baptisms 1576-1906 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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11 Mar 2018 19:16 |
Other children.
NANCY Last name BLACKEY Age - Gender Female Birth year 1777 Birth date - Baptism year 1777 Baptism date 14 Sep 1777 Church - Place NESTON Father's first name(s) Thos. Father's last name Blackey Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - County Cheshire
First name(s) - Last name BLACKEY Age - Gender Male Birth year 1773 Birth date - Baptism year 1773 Baptism date 04 Jul 1773 Church - Place NESTON Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Blackey Mother's first name(s) Hannah
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