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9 Mar 2018 13:56 |
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This was Emma's family but note how young she is !!!
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2 Dryden Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hayes Head Married Male 51 1800 Agent Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Eliza Hayes Wife Married Female 51 1800 Agent Wife Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Isaac Richardson Hayes Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Warehouseman Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Mary Hayes Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1832 Silk Weaver Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Emma Hayes Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1840 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
She was given as 9 months old on 1841 census:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hennis Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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James Heys Male 40 1801 Lancashire, England
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Eliza Heys Female 40 1801 Lancashire, England
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Alice Heys Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
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Isaac Heys Male 12 1829 Lancashire, England
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Mary Heys Female 9 1832 Lancashire, England
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Emma Heys Female 0 1841 Lancashire, England - 9 months old !!!
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Mary Millar Female 60 1781 Lancashire, England
So only around 14 when she married - not 18 ??
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9 Mar 2018 13:48 |
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ErikaH,To be honest I really don't know..
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9 Mar 2018 13:43 |
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Could this be one of the daughters?
Burial: 15 Dec 1857 New St George, Stalybridge, Lancashire, England
Mary Barber -
Age: 1 mo.
Abode: Bayley Street
Buried by: F. C. Leeson
Register: Burials 1846 - 1901, Page 68, Entry 539
Source: LDS Film 2356314
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9 Mar 2018 13:39 |
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Thanks AustinQ...Not too sure
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9 Mar 2018 13:37 |
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James Barber married Elizabeth clabrough
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9 Mar 2018 13:37 |
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charles marriage
Marriage: 19 Sep 1863 St Peter, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Charles Barber - 24, Mechanic, Bachelor, 66 St James St Manchester
Elizabeth Walker - (X), 23, Spinster, 66 St James St Manchester
Groom's Father: John Barber, Mechanic
Witness: Thomas Barber; Mary Ann English, (X)
Married by Banns by: Nichs. Germon M. A. Rector
Register: Marriages 1838 - 1906, Page 22, Entry 44
Source: LDS Film 2113151
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9 Mar 2018 13:35 |
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YES,YES YES greyghost..This is james.,.as William gave his address as Dryden street on his first marriage to Emma :-)
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9 Mar 2018 13:18 |
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Could they have been in Ireland?
Military Deserters, 1812-1927
ame: William Barber
Age: 26
Birth Year: Abt 1835
Birth Place: Manchester
Desertion Date: 23 Feb 1861
Desertion Place: Dublin
Publication Date: 8 Mar 1861
Regimental Number: 276
Military Corps: 4th Lt. Drag.
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9 Mar 2018 13:06 |
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Family elusive ! There was another Barber family 1841 where Father was an Engineer.
IF this were brother James in 1851 (Mechanic like Father) it at least shows he was born Manchester.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dryden Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Airey Head Married Male 47 1804 Railway Porter Westmorland, England
Sarah Airey Wife Married Female 40 1811 Railway Porter Wife Thurlstone, Yorkshire, England
Joseph Richard Airey Son Unmarried Male 12 1839 Scholar Barnsley, Yorkshire, England
William Henry Airey Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
James Barber Lodger Married Male 20 1831 Mechanic Manchester, Lancashire, England
Betsy Barber Wife Married Female 20 1831 Cotton Factory Manchester, Lancashire, England
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9 Mar 2018 13:02 |
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BARBER, CHARLES HARVEY Order
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 626
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John
Last name Barber --- a gun maker
Name note -
Marriage year 1825
Marriage date 14 Nov 1825
Marriage place Liverpool
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Harvey
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
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9 Mar 2018 13:01 |
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Births:
BARBER, MARY HEYES
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in ASHTON UNDERLYNE Volume 08D Page 429
BARBER, SARAH ANN HEYES
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in ASHTONUNDERLYNE Volume 08D Page 457
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9 Mar 2018 12:48 |
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I really don't think they were born in either Salford or Manchester..Have a sneaky suspition
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9 Mar 2018 12:42 |
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is this him in 1841
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pump Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Barber Male 40 1801 Lancashire, England
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Ann Barber Female 44 1797 Lancashire, England
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John Barber Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
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James Barber Male 10 1831 Lancashire, England
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William Barber Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England
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Thomas Barber Male 5 1836 Lancashire, England
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Charles Barber Male 1 1840 Lancashire, England
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Mary Ann Barber Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England
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Mary Barber Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Barber Female 11 1830 Lancashire, England
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9 Mar 2018 12:39 |
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yes greyghost this is the family as far as I know it as have had real probs finding any thing that appears more true..John I still a Mechanic on his son Charles marriage in 1863 manchester
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9 Mar 2018 12:36 |
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Is this him in 1841 - not Salford but Father John an Engineer (? to Mechanic 1854 )
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pump Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Barber Male 40 1801 Lancashire, England Transcription
Ann Barber Female 44 1797 Lancashire, England Transcription
John Barber Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England Transcription
James Barber Male 10 1831 Lancashire, England Transcription
William Barber Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England Transcription
Thomas Barber Male 5 1836 Lancashire, England Transcription
Charles Barber Male 1 1840 Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Ann Barber Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Barber Female 13 1828 Lancashire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Barber Female 11 1830 Lancashire, England Transcription
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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9 Mar 2018 12:34 |
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Have you looked on the GRO indexes for any possible births
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9 Mar 2018 12:06 |
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Hello everyone
I wonder if you can help me with William barber' He was born 1835 (according to the 1841 census) for Salford. in Lancashire
His first marriage was on 20th November 1854 to emma hayer at St Andrews church Ancoates, manchester William is 19yrs old and Emma is 18yrs old,william is a mechanic with fathers name John barber also (a mechanic)
their witnesses are Samuel smith and mary smith.
I don't know what happened to Emma or if they had any children as I can't find him on the 1861 1871 and 1881 censuses...Then I find another marriage for him:William barber age 43,widower, Married jane henshall 8th January 1882 at stowell memorial Salford Janes father is James Reynolds (I am not after any info for jane as I have it all , thanks She says she is a widow on the 1891 census
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