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Look Up and or Advice - McEwan or is it Ewing

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Christopher

Christopher Report 16 Apr 2020 13:45

Many thanks

Will keep going

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2020 12:33

Charles's death was easy to spot because the basic info (without looking at the actual cert) on SP shows his mother's maiden name:

MCEWAN
CHARLES
58
mms SEMPLE
1857
564/1 141
Greenock New or Middle


But not all death records showed that:

"The search box for the mother’s maiden name in the death records now includes the words ‘Not always recorded before 1974’. This is because between 1855 and 1973, there are a limited number of indexes for death entries that include the mother's maiden surname and age at death. When populating this field users should click on the box 'Included unrecorded mother’s maiden name’ to return all matches."
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/what-we-are-working-on

And if they died before 1855, the records are usually very sketchy, and seldom include mms - often no parents' names at all.

With such common names, without mms, and without knowing where or when they might have died, it's impossible to pinpoint any particular one.

Christopher

Christopher Report 16 Apr 2020 08:34

Thanks - what I cannot work out is that their alleged sibling (my Charles McEwan) had his DC with themes of the parents - but I cannot find any DC for these (that i can see). It could be they died early I suppose but even then would there have been a church record given they took the time dutifully to get a baptism.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2020 09:39

To recap -
here are the five children's names and dates of birth and baptism again:

MCEWEN
ARTHUR
THOMAS MCEWEN/BRIDGET SEMPLE
M
6/9/1806
10/10/1806
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral


MCEWAN
THOMAS
THOMAS MCEWAN/BRIDGET SEMPLE
M
18/2/1809
19/2/1809
Glasgow, St Andrew's


MCEWAN
MARY
THOMAS MCEWAN/BRIDGET SYMPLE
F
8/5/1811
9/6/1811
Paisley, St Mirin's



MACEWAN
JOHN
THOMAS MACEWAN/BRIDGET SIMPLE
M
22/3/1813
10/4/1813
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral


MCEWEN
ROBERT
THOMAS MCEWEN/BRIDGET SEMPLE
M
24/6/1821
20/7/1821
Edinburgh, St Mary's Cathedral



Unfortunately, these are very common names.
Impossible to know if any subsequent marriages or deaths are theirs.

Christopher

Christopher Report 13 Apr 2020 22:16

Hi All - I am back on the grid after two years - back searching for McEwan. It's a long story but i semi retired but went back into things. Lockdown has given me some time. I am looking to try and (methodically) try to track down if any of the 5 Charles Mcewan and Bridget Semple Children survived. Thomas McEwan (who i originally thought was a farmer in in Ireland) was in fact a tinker going from Edinburgh to Glasgow etc.

Sandra - where in Middlesbrough were you from - I was Linthorpe and West Lane (a product of divorced parents)

Sandra

Sandra Report 5 Mar 2018 10:02

Hi Christopher, I am no expert but I live near Glasgow and hope next week to go to the Mitchell library and can access SP as many times as I like, Scottish certs are brilliant compared to English certs, eg on a BC it tells you usually MMN, date of marriage, on DC it tells you all previous names which is great when someone has married 3 or 4 times, so if you send me names of a few you want to know about I will look, if you wanted a copy of a cert for your records then the last time I was there it was 50p.

Im originally from Middlesbrough.

regards Sandra

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Mar 2018 07:05

You need to see those Census entries from below, to find (hopefully!) more about Birthplaces...

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/census-returns

Chris :)

(then look around on google search, to see what is available for Ireland (or what County you need)


Genes/GR 'Meets', a thing of the past now I think, lol, used to be a regular thing, from most Counties, even the World!, back in the day, lol, different place GR then!. The 'General Board' (now called Chat) even had it's own 'Meets Thread'.

(we had Anne from Darlington then, if I remember, gawd' that's going back some!)

Your Local FHS Society, they are useful...

And, as you're now finding!, Family History as a hobby (or way of life, lol) doesn't come cheap...but rewards on 'finds' are priceless!.

(tip, get as many known, or proven facts as you can (may take time) build your 'Tree' on quality, not quantity, I say, lol)

Christopher

Christopher Report 4 Mar 2018 22:24

super and thanks

At the risk of sounding odd - is there any meet ups in local areas. What I could do with is someone locked in my backroom for three hours (sounds wrong i know!!!)

Any advice welcome - I live in Darlington and need someone with a good understanding of Scottish system

As ever i live in hope

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Mar 2018 21:19

Both FMP and Ancestry offer a free 14-day trial period, so you can see what each has, and decide which one you want to join.
Just remember to cancel before the end of the 14 days if you decide not to go ahead, or you'll automatically be charged for a year's subscription.

Ancestry are offering a big introductory discount for new members (and if an existing member's sub is due for renewal, remember you can start a "new "membership with a different email address from any you've previously used on Ancestry, and still get the discount)

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct

An advantage of FMP is that you get access to the 1939 register. But on the other hand, helpers here on the boards are always happy to look it up for you.
It gives us a buzz - that's why we're here!

Christopher

Christopher Report 4 Mar 2018 19:23

Hi Chris Ho - is FMp worth joining. I have reached the point this weekend of realising my seeking charity for searches cannot go on

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Feb 2018 21:28

(thankyou rg, I'm getting the 'knowledge', lol)

Chris :)

Am sure there must be more on FMP Christopher, it's a case of 'playing' with names!, couldn't see a Baptism for Charles though...

(to be sure of things Irish, you would need to see his Birthplace from Census entries on ScotlandsPeople)


Edits (notes on below, Sponsor 1852, Magdalan McEwen. Sponsor 1853, Mary a MEwen)

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms (Find My Past)

Joseph Nimme 1852 1852 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

James Nimms 1853 1853 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

Thomas Nimmio 1857 1857 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Feb 2018 19:21

If the informant knew the details, this should name Charlotte's parents.


Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year
HARVEY
CHARLOTTE
36
1863
564/1X 2
Greenock Middle

NIMMO
CHARLOTTE
36
1863
564/1X 2
Greenock Middle

Mary

Mary Report 27 Feb 2018 19:21

Rose Ann Nimmo married James Taylor a teacher born Liverpool they had 4 sons one of which was Thomas Nimmo Taylor born Dec 1873 died 1963

He became a Priest, there are lots of articles about him on google one of which states his dad James a teacher from Liverpool and mum Rose-Ann Nimmo Irish.

Please ignore if you have this info,I just thought it made interesting reading.

Maryb.

Christopher

Christopher Report 27 Feb 2018 19:01

10 years looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next question - what became of bridget semple

Christopher

Christopher Report 27 Feb 2018 19:00

Good god - you have found them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edinburgh fgs

Do you know how significant this is

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Feb 2018 18:57

Same one Chris. In Scotland deaths are indexed under all known surnames.



NIMMO
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

TAYLOR
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Feb 2018 18:09

Is that her rg?, so not the one who Married James Taylor 1873...

Chris :)

(wonder what became of Catherine Semple?)


Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Thomas
Last name McEwan
Sex Male
Birth year 1809
Birth date 18 Feb 1809
Baptism year 1809
Baptism date 19 Feb 1809
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Glasgow
Parish St Andrew
Diocese Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 02

(looks like Pedlar?, for Father occ. Sponsors, Patrick MacGraddie, Molly Semple)


First name(s) Robert
Last name McEwen
Sex Male
Birth year 1821
Birth date 24 Jun 1821
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 20 Jul 1821
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwen
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 03

(Sponsors, Hamilton Morrice, Rose Tonar)


First name(s) Arthur
Last name McEwen
Sex Male
Birth year 1806
Birth date 06 Sep 1806
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 10 Oct 1806
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwen
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 02

(occ. Pedlar. Sponsors, Robt. McEwen, Elenor MacEwen)


First name(s) John
Last name MacEwan
Sex Male
Birth year 1813
Birth date 22 Mar 1813
Baptism year 1813
Baptism date10 Apr 1813
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name MacEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Simple

(Sponsors, Peter Murray, Margaret Simple)


First name(s) Mary
Last name McEwan
Sex Female
Birth year 1811
Birth date 08 May 1811
Baptism year 1811
Baptism date 09 Jun 1811
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Paisley
Parish St Mirin
Diocese Paisley
County Renfrewshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Symple
Volume 01

(Sponsors, Charles McEwan, Nancy McOneghy)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Feb 2018 17:03

Rose Ann's death

NIMMO
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

Christopher

Christopher Report 27 Feb 2018 17:02

Goodness - my work for tonight - someone else will have to cook the tea and walk the dog
I feel i am on the edge of a breakthrough
That said - not sure whether the theory of Ewing and McEwan being interchangeable is true

And i have credits for SP

Hurrah

Mary

Mary Report 27 Feb 2018 14:58

Probably nothing to do with finding the 1st wife of Thomas Nimmo,but was the Charlotte Hardie he married in 1851 with the McEwan 1841 and 1851.

1841 Charlotte Harvey age 21
1851 Charlotte Hardy 22 Neice born Ireland dressmaker.

Son to Thomas and Charlotte nee Harvie
Thomas Nimmo born 21/5/1857.

Maryb