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ArgyllGran
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26 Feb 2018 17:45 |
Yes, could well be, Chris.
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26 Feb 2018 17:30 |
(I did wonder about below?)...
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1891 (Find My Past) James Wood Head Married Male 25 1866 Ipswich, Suffolk, England General Labourer Ann Wood Wife Married Female 28 1863 Ipswich, Suffolk, England - Nellie Wood Daughter - Female 0 1891 (7mo?) North Woolwich, Kent, England Albert Road, Woolwich, London & Kent,
(1891 Census taken, 5th April)
(if below?)
Birth PAGE, NELLIE - GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1104
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26 Feb 2018 17:24 |
Listing the children :
Per 1911, James had been married 20 years, 12 children, 6 deceased. (That info should be given for the wife, not the husband - but presumably just a mistake.)
Nellie 1890-91, Woolwich. (Haven't found her birth or death. She's not with the family in 1901) James c1892 - haven't found. George c1894 - haven't found Elizabeth c1896. Elizabeth's birth as Garrard, in Woolwich 1896.
Possibly two more who died in infancy?
GARRETT, ROBERT JOHN mms PAGE GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 506
GARRETT, MICHAEL mms PAYE GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 475
Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%) Garrett Michael 0 Dartford 2a 324 Garrett Robert John 1 Dartford 2a 319
Millie 1905 - Wood on 1911, birth reg as Garrod or variation, Dartmouth. Alice 1907 - ditto Harriet 1909 - ditto. Harriet baptised as Wood.
Horace 1911 - birth as Garrard, Dartmouth.
That's 10 - two more to find, as well as births for James, George, and Nellie.
All (so far) have mms Page.
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26 Feb 2018 15:45 |
Do you know anything of those other siblings of Alice, seems a few looking at Census entries posted...
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(below was the latest thing I found, added with other 1913 Baptisms)
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Baptism County Kent Place Dartford Church name Christ Church Register type Parish Register Register entry number 152 Baptism date 16 Dec 1913 Birth date 26 Sep 1913 Person forename Maude Annie Person sex F Person abode 8 Baldwins Road Father surname WOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Elizabeth
Births Dec 1913 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Wood Maud A Wood Dartford 2a 1173
(was she perhaps the Daughter of Elizabeth?, no idea!)
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26 Feb 2018 15:33 |
I thought Reys was a mistranscription, and should be Page, but maybe not.
this looks like that George in 1911 - haven't investigated parents yet.
George J Garrett in the 1911 England Census Name: George J Garrett Age in 1911: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Dartford, Kent Civil Parish: Stone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 9 Milestone, Road, Stone, Near Dartford, Kent Marital Status: Single Occupation: Labour Registration district: Dartford Registration District Number: 43 Sub-registration district: Dartford ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 3779 Household Members: Name Age Thomas J Garrett 45 Ann E Garrett 49 William J Garrett 19 George J Garrett 17 Alfred Garrett 11 Fanny E Garrett 9.
EDIT:
Yes, forget that George.
These are his parents:
Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%) Garrett Thomas Dartford 2a 600 Keys Annie Elizabeth Dartford 2a 600
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26 Feb 2018 12:36 |
(lol, don't think it will be that easy!)
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Carol
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26 Feb 2018 12:35 |
That's another mother Reys. All these different mothers getting me a headache now. Wow thank you it gives us something to sort out to see who the real anne is the right person.
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ArgyllGran
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26 Feb 2018 12:05 |
Just to add -
I suspect this is the birth of their son George, with ms mistranscribed:
GARRETT, GEORGE JAMES mms REYS GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 504
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ArgyllGran
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26 Feb 2018 11:58 |
Annie wasn't Garrod (or similar).
James was Garrod in 1881 and Garrard in 1871 (both censuses posted above). Chris has also given his parents' details - Hobart and Harriet.
Annie's ms is given as Page in all the children's birth records we've found, so it seems certain that was her ms.
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26 Feb 2018 11:14 |
I wonder if they were not married and annie was Garrad ,Garrod or Garrard and James was wood that is why they changed names.either one of them might of been married before.Thank you so much for your help.Past catching up on them I think. something fishy.Thank you so much all of you I was surprized once again.You are all ace.The family are going to be more confused now .lol xx
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26 Feb 2018 09:05 |
GARRARD, HORACE mms PAGE GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 1286
So, for some reason, the family are sometimes calling themselves Wood, and sometimes Garrard/Garrod/other variation.
I still can't see any marriage between James and Annie, under either name.
Unless James was using yet another surname at the time! Or Annie had been married before. Maybe she was still married, and never married James.
I keep being drawn to this one (probably a red herring) - but can't find any of these people in 1891, to see which woman married which man:
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) DIGGORY William Woolwich 1d 1643 FORBES James Woolwich 1d 1643 Page Annie Woolwich 1d 1643 WORSLEY Maria Woolwich 1d 1643
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26 Feb 2018 08:52 |
(oh dear, and haven't got time to search further, but below, lol)
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Baptism County Kent Place Dartford Church name Christ Church Register type Parish Register Register entry number 151 Baptism date 16 Dec 1913 Birth date Aug 1911 Person forename Horace Person sex M Person abode 8 Baldwins Road Father forename James Father surname WOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Annie
Baptism County Kent Place Dartford Church name Christ Church Register type Parish Register Register entry number 149 Baptism date 16 Dec 1913 Birth date Jun 1904 Person forename Millie Person sex F Person abode 8 Baldwins Road Father forename James Father surname WOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Annie
Baptism County Kent Place Dartford Church name Christ Church Register type Parish Register Register entry number 150 Baptism date 16 Dec 1913 Birth date 1907 Person forename Alice Person sex F Person abode 8 Baldwins Road Father forename James Father surname WOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Annie
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Edits (just noticed below, same date/address as above?)
Baptism County Kent Place Dartford Church name Christ Church Register type Parish Register Register entry number 152 Baptism date 16 Dec 1913 Birth date 26 Sep 1913 Person forename Maude Annie Person sex F Person abode 8 Baldwins Road Father surname WOOD Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Elizabeth
Births Dec 1913 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Wood Maud A Wood Dartford 2a 1173
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26 Feb 2018 08:22 |
(lol, thought she was too easy to find!!)
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(and probably no help, but Bramford was also given 1911 for her Birthplace)
Where is James 1891?...(as below)
1891 (Find My Past) James Wood Head Married Male 25 1866 Ipswich, Suffolk, England General Labourer Ann Wood Wife Married Female 28 1863 Ipswich, Suffolk, England - Nellie Wood Daughter - Female 0 1891 (7mo?) North Woolwich, Kent, England Albert Road, Woolwich, London & Kent,
(1891 Census taken, 5th April)
(if below?)
Birth PAGE, NELLIE - GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1104
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26 Feb 2018 08:16 |
No, that can't be the right Annie.
Annie M. Page in the 1881 England Census Name: Annie M. Page Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relationship to Head: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Dedham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Princel Green Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Domestic Serv Out Of Place Registration district: Lexden ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1800 Folio: 10 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Gertrude Page 24 Annie M. Page
Annie M Page in the 1901 England Census Name: Annie M Page Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Pangbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Pangbourne St James Town: Large County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Bradfield Sub-registration district: Tilehurst ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1142 Folio: 124 Page Number: 42 Household schedule number: 255 Household Members: Name Age William Kent 45 Ruth Kent 41 Ruth Wigmore 14 Annie M Page 37
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26 Feb 2018 08:11 |
Well, the address is right but Annie Snr. appears to be 'Emma' !!
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Navarre Street, St Margaret, Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Start free family tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Page Head - Male 40 1831 - Suffolk, England - Ostler Transcription Emma Page Wife - Female 41 1830 - Suffolk, England Transcription Gertrude Page Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Suffolk, England Transcription Emma Page Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Suffolk, England Transcription **Annie Page Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Suffolk, England Transcription Minnie Page Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Suffolk, England
Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%) LOCKWOOD Elizabeth Ipswich 4a 736 Scan available - click to view PAGE William Ipswich 4a 736 Scan available - click to view** Ralph Charles Ipswich 4a 736 Scan available - click to view WEBBER Emma Ipswich 4a 736 Scan available - click to view**
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26 Feb 2018 08:01 |
If Birth posted...
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Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Annie May Last name Page Birth year 1865 Baptism year 1865 Baptism date 26 Mar 1865 Parish Ipswich, St Margaret Place Ipswich Father's first name(s) William Mothers first name(s) Annie Father's occupation Ostler Residence Ipswich Notes Navarre St
1871 (Find My Past) William Page Head - Male 40 1831 - Suffolk, England (Ostler) Emma Page Wife - Female 41 1830 - Suffolk, England Gertrude Page Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Suffolk, England Emma Page Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Suffolk, England Annie Page Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Suffolk (Ipswich) England Minnie Page Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Suffolk, England Navarre Street, St Margaret, Ipswich, Suffolk,
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26 Feb 2018 07:37 |
So could be below...
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1871 (Find My Past) Hobart Garrard Head - Male 38 1833 - Suffolk, England (Carpenter) Harriett Garrard Wife - Female 42 1829 - Essex, England Hobart Garrard Son - Male 18 1853 - Suffolk, England Alice Garrard Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Suffolk, England Robert Garrard Son - Male 8 1863 - Suffolk, England James Garrard Son - Male 4 1867 - Suffolk (Bramford), England Horace Garrard Son - Male 6 1865 - Suffolk, England Harriet Garrard Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Suffolk, England
Birth GARROD, HORACE (HAYWARD) GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in BOSMERE AND CLAYDON Volume 04A Page 591
(also for James 1867, Hayward)
Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Garrard Hobart Ipswich 4a 1300 Hayward Harriet Ipswich 4a 1300
(notes below also)
Birth GARRARD, HOBART (PAGE) GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 616
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------- GARRARD Hobart 0 Dartford 2a 366
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25 Feb 2018 22:45 |
Annie Page's birth ??:
PAGE, ANNIE MAY mms WEBBER GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 644
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25 Feb 2018 22:31 |
The family in 1901 ??
James Garrard in the 1901 England Census Name: James Garrard Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Anne Garrard Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Eynsford Ecclesiastical parish: Crockenhill All Souls Town: Crockenhill County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Dartford Sub-registration district: Farningham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 709 Folio: 61 Page Number: 8 Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age James Garrard 35 - scaffolder / builders labourer Anne Garrard 34 James Garrard 9 George Garrard 7 Elizabeth Garrard
GARRARD, ELIZABETH mms PAGE GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1262
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25 Feb 2018 22:01 |
(looks about right there AG, will leave you with below (same address as 1911, and James Wood Burial)
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Burial County Kent Place Bexley Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 567 Burial date 22 Oct 1945 Person age 79 Burial person forename Annie Burial person surname GARRAD Burial person abode 8 Baldwyns Road, Bexley
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