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Martin Arthur wife beating

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2018 15:26

Isabella's death:

ARTHUR
ISABELLA
0
1882
685/1 487
St George


She's a pauper, and died 22 May 1882 at St Cuthbert's Poorhouse.
Father: Martin Arthur, currier, journeyman.
Mother: Jane Arthur, ms Wilson.
Cause of death: bronchitis.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Feb 2018 14:57

Possible death of Isabella, b 1881 ?


ROBERTSON
ISABELLA MCCULL
77
1958
685/5 392
George Square


EDIT:

No, forget that - wrong parents:

Isabella Mc Cullough Robertson
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella Mc Cullough Robertson
Age: 4 Mos
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: William Robertson
Mother's name: Janet Robertson

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 22 Feb 2018 14:33

death:
ARTHUR
MARGARET MILNE
46
1920
644/10 191**
Blythswood

BANNER
MARGARET MILNE
46
1920
644/10 191**
Blythswood

MCTEAR
MARGARET MILNE
46
1920
644/10 191 **
Blythswood

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Feb 2018 18:56


Birth:
Margaret Mills Arthur
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1874
Birthplace: EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Martin Arthur
Mother's Name: Jane Wilson

Edit:
Entered as McIntyre at 1901
Name appears to be McTear.

1st Marriage:
ARTHUR
MARGARET MILNE
MCTEAR
ALFRED
1895
573/ 483
Paisley

2nd Marriage same index No
ARTHUR
MARGARET MILNE
BANNER
JAMES
1902
644/12 102**
Gorbals

MCTEAR
MARGARET MILNE
BANNER
JAMES
1902
644/12 102 **
Gorbals

Sylann

Sylann Report 21 Feb 2018 17:47

Thank you for that I had a look ??
the death for Jane under the name Robertson, Daughter Maggie Banners of 6 Tevist/ Feviot?? Street Glasgow present

Jane Robertson widow of 1st husband Martin Arthur dec Currier 2nd husband John Robertson iron dresser of 24 Nicholson Street Glasgow

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 21 Feb 2018 14:43

The 1881 birth does exist.

An illegitimate child is entitled to use a mother's maiden name or the same name used by the mother

Mother's married name at time of birth was Arthur and this child is entitled to use both Arthur or Wilson which is why one birth is indexed under both names

Birth
ARTHUR
ISABELLA MCCULL
F
1881
685/5 1099 **
Newington

WILSON
ISABELLA MCCULL
F
1881
685/5 1099 **
Newington


Who signed the 1907 death cert?
Is it possible that Jane was never married to John Robertson and could he have been the biological father of the child named Isabella?

This child does not appear on any census return and there is no matching, infant death ?

Sylann

Sylann Report 21 Feb 2018 11:21

I should say that their was a daughter Isabel McCullock Wilson/Arthur born 1881 Edinburgh no sign of a birth certificate but it shows up on ancestry apparently Jane says Martin Arthur isn't the father

Sylann

Sylann Report 21 Feb 2018 11:16

Yes That is the family but no sign of Martin he shows up again in 1901 Jane dies in 1907 stating her 1st husband Martin Arthur a currier dec and her 2nd John Robertson
dec. No sign of a marriage for Jane & John Robertson ? and Martin Arthur didn't die until 1916

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Feb 2018 11:04

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Paterson's Court (Lawnmarket), Tolbooth Edinburgh, St Giles, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Jane Arthur Head Married Female 40 1851 Midlothian, Scotland Charwoman
James Arthur Son Unmarried Male 18 1873 Lanarkshire, Scotland Brass Founder
Jane Arthur Daughter - Female 12 1879 Midlothian, Scotland Scholar
James Coutts Visitor Unmarried Male 18 1873 Midlothian, Scotland Baker
Mary Ann Gilchrist Visitor Unmarried Female 15 1876 Midlothian, Scotland Bag Maker

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Feb 2018 10:56

Is this the family you refer to? In 1881 Jane Head of house (not married in 1881 - as your OP can read)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19, Ponton Street, St Cuthberts, Newington, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Jane Arthur Head Married Female 31 1850 Canongate, Midlothian, Scotland Char Woman
James Arthur Son - Male 10 1871 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Scholar
Margaret Arthur Daughter - Female 6 1875 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Scholar
Jane Arthur Daughter - Female 2 1879 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland -
Georgina Pettigrew Boarder Unmarried Female 18 1863 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Domestic Servant

Sylann

Sylann Report 21 Feb 2018 10:55

Sorry it was in the 1881 census not that they married in 1881 they married in 1866

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2018 10:37

Are you sure they married in 1881 as this comes up



Name: Martin Arthur
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1866
Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: Jane Wilson
FHL Film Number: 6035516


1871 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Martin Arthur
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Arthur
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 648
Registration district: Lanark
Civil Parish: Lanark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Castlegate
Occupation: Currier
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 49
LINE: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_146
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Arthur 23
Jane Arthur 24
Martin Arthur 3

Dea

Dea Report 21 Feb 2018 10:34

In the article I read it says wife and 'child' and the sentence was 30 'DAYS' !!

Dea x

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2018 10:33

So he was a currier

1901 Scotland Census No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Martin Arthur
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Father
Spouse's name : Jane Arthur
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 644/5
Registration district: Blackfriars
Civil Parish: Glasgow Robertson Memorial
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 26 George Street
Occupation: Currier
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 81
LINE: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_283
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Mcintyre 27 ( Arthur)
Caroline Mcintyre 4
Martin Arthur 53
Jane Arthur 54
Jane Arthur 22
Margaret Hanlan 15

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2018 10:29

But if your martin married in 1881 would he have several childen by 1884

What was his occupation on the mariage cert

Have you found jane on later census .s

Sylann

Sylann Report 21 Feb 2018 10:11

Can anyone tell me how I can get more info on this assault that I've found on FMP
1884 High Street Linlithgow Martin Arthur a currier was charged with ( wife beating) assault on his wife and children he was sentenced to 30 in prison
Not sure if it is the Martin Arthur that I'm following so I was wondering if any one can tell me where I might get more info on this case to prove if it is my Martin Arthur

My Martin was married to Jane Wilson in 1881 she was head of house living in Midlothian still married? No sign of Martin from 1871 -1891 in Lanark as father living with daughter his wife is also there