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How helpful! Thank you so much.
I wonder if anyone can join the dots for me.
I am descended from Daniel and Mary John(Johns) who in the 1851 census were living at Plasnewydd Llanddewi Velfrey. Their daughter Louisa was my great great grandmother.
My mother knew of a family connection in Fleetwood and indeed there is a photo of Daniel - at a guess in his 70's taken in a studio in Fleetwood.
I have found a wonderful studio photo ( again from Fleetwood) of a man and his wife-( at a guess in their 60's or 70's) with 7 young adults ( grandchildren?)- at a guess in their twenties. The young people clearly descend from two if not three different sets of parents but all are expensively dressed and seem at home in their clothing.
The person Mary Georgina Munro Gibson may be among them and obviously there is a reason why the photo was in our house.
I am trying to establish a link to my ancestors and I would be very grateful if anyone could help me further.
With thanks

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pantey, Llanddewi Velfrey, Narberth, Pembrokeshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel John Head Married Male 42 1819 Tailor Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Mary John Wife Married Female 45 1816 - Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Louisa John Daughter Unmarried Female 11 1850 - Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
William John Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Scholar Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
David John Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 Scholar Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Jane John Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1858 - -

For birth year info

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Plasnewydd, Llandewy Velfrey, Narberth, Pembrokeshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel John Head Married Male 32 1819 Tailor Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Mary John Wife Married Female 35 1816 - Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
John John Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Ann John Daughter - Female 3 1848 At Home Pembrokeshire, Wales Transcription
Louisa John Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Pembrokeshire, Wales

Who did Louisa marry?

How helpful! Thank you so much.
I wonder if anyone can join the dots for me.
I am descended from Daniel and Mary John(Johns) who in the 1851 census were living at Plasnewydd Llanddewi Velfrey. Their daughter Louisa was my great great grandmother.
My mother knew of a family connection in Fleetwood and indeed there is a photo of Daniel - at a guess in his 70's taken in a studio in Fleetwood.
I have found a wonderful studio photo ( again from Fleetwood) of a man and his wife-( at a guess in their 60's or 70's) with 7 young adults ( grandchildren?)- at a guess in their twenties. The young people clearly descend from two if not three different sets of parents but all are expensively dressed and seem at home in their clothing.
The person Mary Georgina Munro Gibson may be among them and obviously there is a reason why the photo was in our house.
I am trying to establish a link to my ancestors and I would be very grateful if anyone could help me further.
With thanks

Name: Francis Leslie Johns
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pelsall, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Probus
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County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Gummon, Probus, Cornwall
Registration district: Truro
Registration District Number: 296
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 13806
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Henry Johns 48
Mary Reed Johns 41
Mary Pearl Johns 15
Thomas Henry Johns 13
Elsie Margaret Johns 12
Edward Ernest Johns 8
Ruby May Johns 4
William Hollen Johns 3
Dorothy Irene Johns 6/12
Mary Johns 38
Francis Leslie Johns 3
Albert Mewton 18

All born Probus, Cornwall, apart from Francis and the servant, Albert Mewton

I wondered if George married again after Mary's death:

First name(s) GEORGE H
Last name JOHNS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1938
Spouse: Barbara E Feather
District Blackpool
County Lancashire
Volume 8E Page number 1574
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Possible death for George:

First name(s) GEORGE H
Last name JOHNS
Gender Male
Birth year 1897
Age 41
Death quarter 4
Death year 1938
District Blackpool
County Lancashire
Volume 8E Page 687
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Barbara in 1939:

Clovelly Avenue , Blackpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Arthur Reginald Feather 11 Feb 1874 Male Jeweller Retired Married
Laura Elizabeth Feather 02 Aug 1879 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Barbara Edith Herman (Johns) 21 Oct 1907 Female Musician Widowed

(Barbara later married Jozef W Herman in 1942 Blackpool)
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Probate:
Name: George Herbert Johns
Death Date: 2 Nov 1938
Death Place: Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Probate Date: 9 Jan 1939
Registry: Exeter

JOHNS George Herbert of 12 Clovelly Avenue, Norbreck, Blackpool died 2 November 1938 Probate Exeter 9 January to Francis Leslie Johns and Walter Hubert Hughes bank officials.
Effects £457
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Francis looks to be his brother:

JOHNS, FRANCIS LESLIE (Mother's maiden name: PHILLIPS)
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 730

Name: Rosanna Symons Sampson
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Oct 1832
Baptism Place: Breage,Cornwall,England
Father: George Sampson
Mother: Mary


Name: Rosina Sampson
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: George Sampson
Mother's name: Mary Sampson
Gender: Female
Where born: Breage, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: St Levan
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County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Penzance
Sub-registration district: St Just
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1919
Folio: 460
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
George Sampson 58
Mary Sampson 57
William Sampson 28
Richard Sampson 26
Jane Sampson 21
Rosina Sampson 18
John Sampson 15
Thomas Sampson 13

Name: Thomas Johns
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Truro
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 243
Records on Page:
Name
William Holman
Thomas Johns
Mary Ann Oates
Rosina Symons Sampson

No sign yet of a Welsh connection

1871
Name: Joseph Johns
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Johns
Mother's name: Rosina Johns
Gender: Male
Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Probus
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 2272
Folio: 17
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johns 41
Rosina Johns 38
Emily Johns 39
Thomas Johns 8
William Johns 6
Joseph Johns 5
Alfred Johns 3
George Johns 1
Eliza Stribly 26
Rosina Johns 10

Name: Joseph Johns
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Probus, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Probus
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Ecclesiastical parish: Probus
Town: Probus
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: Englande
Registration district: Truro
Sub-registration district: Probus
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2216
Folio: 14
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Johns 71
Rosina S Johns 68
William Johns 36
Joseph Johns 35
George H Johns 4

JOHNS, GEORGE HERBERT (MMN) PHILLIPS
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 221


Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%)
Johns Joseph Newton A. 5b 309
Phillips Mary Newton A. 5b 309

Name: George Herbert Johns
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 18
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 1 Mount Road, Fleetwood
Regimental Number: 10542
Regiment Name: Royal Fusiliers
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 22
Other Records: Search for 'George Herbert Johns' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Herbert Johns Self (Head)
Mary Johns Mother
Civilian occupation : Bank Clerk
Birthplace: St Ives, Cornwall


Name: George Herbert Johns
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Ives, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Rugby
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: Kelston Rugby
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Rugby
Registration District Number: 391
Sub-registration district: Rugby
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 18599
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Johns 45
George Herbert Johns 14
Alfred Edward Johns 10 born Lostwithiel, Cornwall
Joseph Tredinnick Johns 7 born Barnard Castle, Co Durham
Eliza Jane Barton 18

Name: George Herbert Johns
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 8 Feb 1897
Baptism Place: St. Ives, Cornwall, England
Father: Joseph Johns
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1796108

1939
Royal Allen Institution Ashton Road , Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England


FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) ROLE DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Leslie Gibson Johns Patient 10 Sep 1930 Male Inmate Single 2 176

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1919

GIBSON Mary Georgina Munro JOHNS George Herbert Blackpool, Methodist Church (Raikes Parade)

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris:)

(if below relates)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1921

JOHNS Margaret Mary GIBSON Blackpool North Blackpool BN/2/23

And in 1891:


Mary G M Gibson
in the 1891 England Census
Name:
Mary G M Gibson
Age:
2
Relationship:
Daughter
Birth Year:
1889
Father:
James Rd Gibson
Mother:
Mary G Gibson
Birth Place:
Fleetwood, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Peter
Residence Place:
Fleetwood, Thornton, Lancashire, England

Household Members:

James Rd Gibson 41
Mary G Gibson 31
Martha A C Gibson 3
Mary G M Gibson 2
Isabella Wright 14 , servant

Is this her in 1911?


Mary G M Gibson
in the 1911 England Census
Name:
Mary G M Gibson
Age in 1911:
22
Estimated birth year:
abt 1889
Relation to Head:
Stepdaughter
Birth Place:
Fleetwood, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Fleetwood
Street address:
3 Mount Road Fleetwood
Marital Status:
Single
Occupation:
Private Means

Household Members:

Margery Gibson 48 . head. widow
Martha A C Gibson 23 . stepdaughter
Mary G M Gibson 22 . stepdaughter
Doris B Gibson 16 , daughter
Violet H Gibson 11 . daughter

This is her marriage:-

First name(s) MARY G M
Last name GIBSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1919
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MARY G M GIBSON married
George H Johns
Spouse's last name Johns
District Fylde
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Volume as transcribed 8E
Page number 1904
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

The marriage certificate should name George's father (if he knew him).

Kath. x

I remember being told that there was a family connection in Fleetwood- possibly through the Johns ( of Llanddewi Velfrey Pembs). Some information connects a Mary Georgina Munro Johns (nee Gibson) who died on the 14th December 1937. In the 1901 census she is 12 years of age.
I have a beautiful photograph and I would like to establish what the connection is. Can anyone help me please?