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Clive
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4 Feb 2018 01:06 |
I am researching the Symington family who lived in Paisley and then Troon in Scotland.
John Macalaster Symington (1859 to 1892) was married to Janet Campbell Symington (nee Blackwood) (1865 to 1939) (possibly known as Jen, Jenny or Jennett)
They had 3 children: 1) Jane White Symington (1886 to 1946) married Maurice James Bell (1878 to 1935). He was a Chartered accountant with Grahams, Rintoul, Hay, Bell & Co. Were there any children?
2) Elise Balfour Symington (1887 to 1963) was the second wife of Olof Axel Ohlsson (1873 to 1953). He was educated Cambridge but I think South African. She seems to have had no children of her own but he had 4 from an earlier marriage( Neill Anders Ohlsson, Rae Fuller Ohlsson, Rana Ohlsson and Nancy Ohlsson). I think they may have lived on Jersey
3) Margaret Russell Macalaster Symington (1889 to 1941). Never married.
Any information on any of these people would be of interest. In particular I am trying to find photos of them to help identify relatives in old family photos. They all seem to have been fairly wealthy so may have had a picture published somewhere.
Clive
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Eringobragh1916
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4 Feb 2018 08:57 |
Re Olof Axel OHISSON
Ohlsson, Olof Axel. Adm. pens. at TRINITY, Oct. 7, 1892. S. of Anders, of Montebello, Newlands, Cape Town, S. Africa. B. May 4, 1873, at Cape Town. School, Rondebosch diocesan. Matric. Michs. 1892.
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patchem
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4 Feb 2018 09:19 |
Have you looked for wills/testaments for them, for more information?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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4 Feb 2018 11:23 |
1911
Name: Jane White Symington Age in 1911: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Paisley, Visitor, Renfrewshire Civil Parish: Compton Search Photos: Search for 'Compton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Greystone, Shawford, Winchester, Hants Marital Status: Single Occupation: Private Means Registration district: Winchester Registration District Number: 103 Sub-registration district: Twyford ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 85 Piece: 6137 Household Members: Name Age Percy Crowther 36 Occupation: Director Of Public Company Mabel Crowther 31 Christine Mabel Crowther 9 Betty Eileen Crowther 4 Jane White Symington 25*************visitor Isobel Ellerton 25 Susan Cheeseman 40 Ada Norris 23 Edith Mary Jenvey 26
1891 Name: Jane W Symington Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's name: John M Symington Yarn Merchant****** Mother's name: Janet C Symington Gender: Female Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 590/2 Registration district: Troon Civil Parish: Dundonald County: Ayrshire Address: 8 Portland Terrace ED: 5 Household schedule number: 140 LINE: 8 Roll: CSSCT1891_203 Household Members: Name Age John M Symington 32 Janet C Symington 26 Jane W Symington 5 Eliza B Symington 4 Margt B M Symington 2 Jane Houston 26 Annie Macfarlane 21
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Clive
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4 Feb 2018 15:26 |
Many thanks for the responses above
Eringobragh - I hadn't seen that. It gives me his college and schools so maybe a lead.
Patchem - I have viewed John Macalaster Symington's will on Scotlandspeople. I haven't found any others
Mel - that 1911 census is a bit of a mystery but I guess Jane White Symington was just visiting but not sure of the link with the Crowther family.
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safc
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4 Feb 2018 15:41 |
???? http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13214194
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4 Feb 2018 15:46 |
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http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Keywords/archive/content.person.name/Ohlsson,%20Olof%20Axel/
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Maddie
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4 Feb 2018 16:18 |
there is a tree on ancestry with photographs of janet campbell blackwood and here parents and her siblings tree name - clivexdavies
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greyghost
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4 Feb 2018 16:59 |
I see that he was in Renfrewshire in 1911 and the marriage was in Paisley 1912.
His death recorded in Troon in 1935
But is this Maurice on the Valuation Rolls - from Scotland's People
BELL MAURICE JAMES Proprietor HOUSE CRAIGRONACH 30 SOUTH BEACH DUNDONALD 1935 VR009000216- View image (2 credits) -------------------------------------
Surname Forename Title Status Place Parish Year Reference Number Image View BELL MAURICE JAMES Proprietor Occupier CRAIGRONACH VILLA 30 SOUTH BEACH DUNDONALD 1930 VR009000201- --------------------------------------
Surname Forename Title Status Place Parish Year Reference Number Image View BELL MAURICE JAMES Proprietor Occupier CRAIGRONACH VILLA 30 SOUTH BEACH DUNDONALD 1925 VR009000186- View image (2 credits) -------------------------------- BELL MAURICE JAMES Proprietor Occupier CRAIGRONACH VILLA 38 SOUTH BEACH DUNDONALD 1920 VR009000174- View image
----------------------- BELL MAURICE JAMES Proprietor Occupier HOUSE SOUTH BEACH DUNDONALD 1920 VR009000174-
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greyghost
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4 Feb 2018 17:09 |
Elise' marriage was in Chelsea
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) ELISE B Last name SYMINGTON Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1921 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ELISE B SYMINGTON married Olof A Ohlsson Spouse's last name Ohlsson District Chelsea District number - County London Country England Volume 1A Volume as transcribed 1A Page number 1012
No births showing England/Wales up to 1927
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GlasgowLass
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4 Feb 2018 17:11 |
Maddie, The tree you refer to belongs to the poster.(Clive)
I remember his previous threads on the Blackwood family
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ArgyllGran
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4 Feb 2018 17:15 |
As Bell is such a common name, and as mothers' maiden names can't be used to narrow down a search of births (after 1854) on Scotlands People, it's impossible to tell if Jane and Maurice had any children - unless you were able to find a Will which might name them. Censuses are no help, either, as they didn't marry until 1912.
Re Elise -
this is on the Jersey heritage site, but you'd need to subscribe to see the details;
Reference B/A/L42/11/13 Date 1943 - 1945 Access Restriction Order online copy by adding to basket - please order B/A/L42/11 to view at Archive Closed until 2100 evacuees
Name Ohlsson, Elise Balfour Context: B/A/L Bailiff's Chambers: Liberation Files » B/A/L42 Applications of evacuees wishing to return to Jersey after the Occupation. Each volume of applications includes; names of applicants, date they left the Island before the Occupation, names of children, occupation, date of birth, address in Jersey and address in United Kingdom.
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4 Feb 2018 17:22 |
Rana Ohlsson in the UK & Ireland, Nursing Registers, 1898-1968 Name: Rana Ohlsson Residence Year: 1946 Residence Place: Jersey, Channel Islands Registration Date: 26 Nov 1943 Publisher: General Nursing Council for England & Wales
Address: Rockmount, Gorey, Jersey. Qualification gained at St Mary's Hospital, London, 1940-43
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Clive
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4 Feb 2018 18:11 |
Thanks for all your help
Maddie, Glasgowlass and Argyllgran - it is my tree on ancestry and thanks to your help on earlier threads on here I am now in touch with a Blackwood descendant in Canada who has sent me photos of several ancestors. An amazing result!
safc and ArgyllGran - That Jersey link is useful. I can see a photo of Nancy Ohlsson on there. It looks like she married a Polish national and her surname has changed to de Kuszaba Dabrowski.
The nursing link for Rana Ohlsson is interesting as we have one or two unidentified photos of nurses from around that era.
safc - I have seen that National Archives page where Olof Axel Ohlsson has resigned as Swedish Vice Consul at Cape Town in 1906 and will take a look at that when I next visit there. I wonder if I could try and contact the Swedish Consul in South Africa and see if they have anything.
Greyghost - the Chelsea link is also interesting. I think that Nancy Ohlsson may have been based in Kensington at some point.
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alviegal
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4 Feb 2018 18:59 |
1) Jane White Symington (1886 to 1946) married Maurice James Bell (1878 to 1935). He was a Chartered accountant with Grahams, Rintoul, Hay, Bell & Co. Were there any children?
According to his obituary , there were no children. He was survived by his wife.
DEATH OF GLASGOW C . A . Mr Maurice James Bell , C . A ., died yesterday morning at his home , Craigronach , Troon , Mr Bell , who was born in Hamilton , became a member...... 16 November 1935 - The Scotsman - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
EDIT From findmypast.
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alviegal
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4 Feb 2018 19:09 |
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image Add to tree First name(s) O A Last name Ohlsson Title MR Gender Male Age 77 Birth year 1874 Occupation RETIRED Departure year 1951 Departure day 25 Departure month 1 Departure port Southampton Destination port Cape Destination CAPE Country South Africa Destination country South Africa Ship name Carnarvon Castle
last address in GB was Delmar, Bel Royal, Jersey and he intended to return to Jersey.
Will and Testament of Elizabeth Balfour Ohlsson, née Symington, of Delmar, Bel Royal, St Lawrence. Dated 26/04/1963. [Includes one closed document]
from http://catalogue.jerseyheritage.org/collection/Keywords/archive/content.subject/Delmar,%20Bel%20Royal/
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Clive
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5 Feb 2018 00:51 |
Hi Alviegal. Thanks for that. Where did you find the obituary for Maurice James Bell?
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5 Feb 2018 08:51 |
A remarriage of Anders OHisson....November 1884
OHLSSON—HORNOR—On the 2nd inst., at St. Martin-in-the-Fields, Trafalgar Square, London, by the Rev. J. F. Kitto, M.A., Vicar, and the Rev. J. Hendry Anderson, Rector of Foulsham, Norfolk, Anders Ohlsson, Consul-General for Sweden and Norway of Montebello, Newlands, Cape Town, to Margaretta Caroline, third daughter of Charles Hornor, of Thorpe Hamlet, Norwich.
Anders was aged 53 son of Olif Anders Ohisson Margaretta was 37 daughter of Charles Horner of Norwich...
Charles Hornor England and Wales Census, 1891
Name Charles Hornor Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Norfolk Parish Norwich Ecclesiastical Parish ST MATTHEW Registration District Norwich Residence Note Thorpe Road Gender Male Age 63 Marital Status Widower Occupation Land Agent And Valuer Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1828 Birthplace Scottow, Norfolk, England Page Number 18 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 1522/ 11
You can locate details of the Horner Family on Familysearch.org.
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5 Feb 2018 09:21 |
Take a look at this...Very interesting plus family details...
Anders Ohlsson, Brewer and Politician - University of Cape Town
https://open.uct.ac.za/bitstream/item/25605/Ryan_Anders_Ohlsson_1976.pdf?...1
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Clive
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5 Feb 2018 15:38 |
Thanks Eringobragh. That article on Anders Ohlsson is excellent. I think this may also explain why Jane White Symington was in Winchester in 1911 as per Mel Fairy Godmother earlier in the thread as I have found that Percy Crowther who she was visiting was the director of a brewing company as was Anders Ohlsson.
There must be a picture of his only son Axel Ohlsson (I presume this is Olof Axel Ohlsson) out there somewhere also.It says that he succeeded Anders as Managing Director of Ohlsson Brewery in 1906.
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