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Tanja
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19 Feb 2018 19:21 |
Thanks for all your help and research! Really excited that I have info on Thirza Edwards' family too - you've been a great help!! Thank you all :)
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1 Feb 2018 11:10 |
Name: Henry Edwards Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emedily Edwards Gender: Male Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: West Dean Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Pillowell County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Monmouth Sub-registration district: Coleford ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 230 Piece: 5299 Folio: 46 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Henry Edwards 28 Emedily Edwards 25 Mary E Edwards 4 Thomas H Edwards 2 Keziah Edwards 4 Months
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1 Feb 2018 09:26 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Blakeney Hill, Dean Forest, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Adam James Male 50 1791 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Sarah James Female 50 1791 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Rachel James Female 20 1821 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Ann James Female 20 1821 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Joseph James Male 15 1826 Gloucestershire, England Transcription John James Male 13 1828 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Eliza James Female 11 1830 Gloucestershire, England Transcription James James Male 10 1831 Gloucestershire, England Transcription Elizabeth James Female 8 1833 Gloucestershire, England
Name: Adam James Gender: Male Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 28 Jan 1811 Marriage Place: English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Spouse: Sarah Davis
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ErikaH
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1 Feb 2018 09:23 |
JAMES Emily FROWEN 1845 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 3 493
Name: Adam James Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1842 Marriage Place: St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Father: Adam James Spouse: Amelia Frowen Name: Amelia Frowen Gender: Female Marriage Age: Full age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1842 Marriage Place: St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Father: John Frowen Spouse: Adam James
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1 Feb 2018 09:20 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Lane End, Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Adam James Head Married Male 37 1814 Wood Cutter East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Emily James Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Newland, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Emily James Daughter - Female 6 1845 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Transcription Thirza James Daughter - Female 4 1847 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Transcription - James Son - Male 0 1851 - West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
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ErikaH
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1 Feb 2018 09:20 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9, Butlers Row, Trevethin with Pontypool, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Henry Edwards Head Married Male 40 1841 Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales Coaker Steel Transcription Emily Edwards Wife Married Female 35 1846 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England - Transcription Mary E Edwards Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription Thomas H Edwards Son Single Male 12 1869 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription Richard Edwards Son Single Male 9 1872 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription Emily Edwards Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription Alice Edwards Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription Thora Edwards Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription George Edwards Son Single Male 1 1880 Coleford, Gloucestershire, England -
From the free site GlosBMD
EDWARDS Emily JAMES 1870 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 26 70 EDWARDS Keziah JAMES 1870 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 27 82 EDWARDS Mary Elizabeth JAMES 1866 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 22 247 EDWARDS Thomas Henry JAMES 1869 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 25 22 EDWARDS Emily JAMES 1873 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 30 164 EDWARDS Richard JAMES 1872 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 28 324 EDWARDS Agness JAMES 1875 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 32 330 (probably ALICE on census)
Baptisms
Record Mary Elizabeth Edwards 2 Dec 1866 Forest of Dean, Christchurch Henry, Emily
Thirza Edwards 8 Oct 1876 Bream Henry, Emily
Kerzia Edwards 18 Dec 1870 Bream Henry, Emily
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ArgyllGran
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31 Jan 2018 17:04 |
Ah, well, in that case we can discount all the Georges we've suggested, apart from the one with father William and mother Eliza(beth).
1881 and 1891 censuses already posted but copied again here for ease of reference;
George Jones in the 1881 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Eliza Jones Gender: Male Where born: Trevethin, Monmouth, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: Railway Ter Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5251 Folio: 69 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Jones 33 Mary A. Jones 11 George Jones 8 John Jones 4 Annie Jones 2 Sarah Jones Eliza Jones 32 - wife
George Jones in the 1891 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Elizabeth Jones Gender: Male Where born: Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Pontnewynydd County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: 21 Railway Parade Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 4362 Folio: 65 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age William Jones 44 Elizabeth Jones 43 George Jones 17 - roller (ironworks) John Jones 15 Esther Jones 10 Frederick Jones 6
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Chris Ho :)
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31 Jan 2018 16:23 |
For reference posted above...
Chris :)
Monmouthshire Marriages and Banns Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Thirza Last name Edwards Age 20 Birth year 1875 Year 1895 Event Marriage Marriage year 1895 Marriage date 26 Dec 1895 Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Jones Place Abersychan County Monmouthshire Country Wales Spouse's first name(s) George (Bachelor, occ. Engine Driver) Spouse's last name Jones Spouse's age 23 Spouse's father's first name(s) William (occ. Engine Driver) Spouse's father's last name Jones (her Father, Henry Edwards (Deceased) Labourer. Wits. George Brain, Emily Edwards)
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rootgatherer
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31 Jan 2018 15:47 |
As ArgyllGran has already said, the marriage certificate for George and Thirza is definitely needed to correctly identify your George Jones.
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2018 15:14 |
In the same area as George as posted above
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Butlers Row, Broad Street, Trevethin with Pontypool, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Henry Edwards Head Married Male 49 1842 - Labourer Transcription Emily Edwards Wife Married Female 44 1847 Gloucestershire, England - Transcription Thomas Hy Edwards Son Married Male 22 1869 Gloucestershire, England Coal Miner Transcription Richard Edwards Son Married Male 19 1872 - Haulier Transcription Emily Edwards Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Machinist Transcription Agnes Edwards Daughter Single Female 15 1876 - Machinist Transcription Thirza Edwards Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Gloucestershire, England Scholar Transcription George Edwards Son Single Male 11 1880 - Scholar Transcription Elizabeth Edwards Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar Transcription Eliza Edwards Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar Transcription
Birth of above
EDWARDS Thirza JAMES 1876 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 34 183
And baptism
Name: Thirza Edwards Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 8 Oct 1876 Baptism Place: Bream, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears: Bream, St James Father: Henry Edwards Mother: Emily Edwards
Parents' marriage
Name: Henry Edwards Gender: Male Marriage Age: 21 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1844 Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1865 Marriage Place: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father: John Farr - Farmer Spouse: Emily James
Name: Emily James Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1845 Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1865 Marriage Place: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Father: Adam James - Woodcutter
Witnesses Adam James and Thirza James
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2018 15:07 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 22, Unthank Street, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Jones Head Married Male 27 1874 Wales Sheet Roller At Ironworks Transcription Thirza Jones Wife Married Female 24 1877 Wales - Transcription Agnes Jones Daughter Single Female 4 1897 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England -
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rootgatherer
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30 Jan 2018 23:44 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Trevethin with Pontypool, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Jones Head Widow Female 48 1843 Monmouthshire, Wales - Charles John Jones Son Single Male 22 1869 Monmouthshire, Wales Labourer George Jones Son Single Male 18 1873 Monmouthshire, Wales Labourer Llewellyn Jones Son Single Male 14 1877 Monmouthshire, Wales Labourer William Williams Lodger Married Male 55 1836 Carmarthenshire, Wales Labourer William Micham Lodger Single Male 18 1873 Gloucestershire, England Labourer
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rootgatherer
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30 Jan 2018 23:23 |
JONES, GEORGE HILL Order GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in PONTYPOOL Volume 11A Page 158 Order
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jan 2018 22:31 |
If Sarah was indeed unmarried when George was born, it doesn't look as if that can be the right family - unless her maiden name was also Jones:
James Wm Jones in the 1871 Wales Census Name: James Wm Jones Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's name: John Jones Mother's name: Sarah Jones Gender: Male Where born: Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: Pontypool Ecclesiastical parish: Trevethin Town: Pontypool County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Registration district: Pontypool Sub-registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 326 Piece: 5331 Folio: 99 Page Number: 57 Household Members: Name Age John Jones 38 Sarah Jones 28 Charles Jno Jones 2 James Wm Jones 1
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JONES, CHARLES JOHN mms HILL Order GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in PONTYPOOL Volume 11A Page 127
Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%) Hill Sarah Abergavenny 11a 93 JONES John Abergavenny 11a 93
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rootgatherer
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30 Jan 2018 22:18 |
If George has given the correct DOB on the 1939 register, this may be him in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street, Trevethin with Pontypool, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Jones Wife Head Widow Female 38 1843 Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Shopkeeper (Gen) Charles J Jones Son Single Male 12 1869 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar James William Jones Son Single Male 11 1870 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar George Jones Son Single Male 8 1873 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar Llewellyn Jones Son Single Male 4 1877 Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales Scholar Henry Williams Lodger Single Male 17 1864 - Goods Porter
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Tanja
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30 Jan 2018 20:13 |
Thanks so much for your help, this is fantastic!!
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jan 2018 15:59 |
In case it's relevant - this is the second of those families in 1881:
George Jones in the 1881 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Eliza Jones Gender: Male Where born: Trevethin, Monmouth, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: Railway Ter Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5251 Folio: 69 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Jones 33 Mary A. Jones 11 George Jones 8 John Jones 4 Annie Jones 2 Sarah Jones Eliza Jones 32 - wife
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And the first family, with mother Rebecca:
George Jones in the 1881 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's name: John Jones Mother's name: Rebecca Jones Gender: Male Where born: Trevethin, Monmouth, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: Church Road Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5251 Folio: 84 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age John Jones 31 Rebecca Jones 29 George Jones 7 John Jones 4 Fanny L. Jones 2
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jan 2018 15:52 |
If the 1911 census posted by Kathleen is the correct one, there are two possibilities for George in 1891:
George Jones in the 1891 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Mother's name: Rebecca Jones Gender: Male Where born: Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Pontnewynydd County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: 9 Mill Road Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 4362 Folio: 53 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Rebecca Jones 38 George Jones 17 - coal miner John Jones 14 Elizah Jones 9 - [ Elijah, a son, on image] David Rowlands 25 - lodger
George Jones in the 1891 Wales Census Name: George Jones Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's name: William Jones Mother's name: Elizabeth Jones Gender: Male Where born: Pontnewynydd, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: Trevethin Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Pontnewynydd County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street address: 21 Railway Parade Registration district: Pontypool Sub registration district: Pontypool ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 4362 Folio: 65 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age William Jones 44 Elizabeth Jones 43 George Jones 17 - roller (ironworks) John Jones 15 Esther Jones 10 Frederick Jones 6
You might need to buy the marriage cert (posted above by Kathleen) to see George's occupation, and his father's name. His address might also be helpful. And witnesses' names might provide clues.
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KathleenBell
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30 Jan 2018 13:43 |
This looks like the marriage of your great-grandparents:-
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription Learn more
Print transcription View image First name(s) GEORGE Last name JONES Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1895 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ GEORGE JONES married Thurza Edwards District Pontypool District number - County Monmouthshire Country Wales Volume 11A Volume as transcribed 11A Page number 237 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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30 Jan 2018 13:42 |
Son born 1946 to Thirza and Cyril, probably still living so you can ses name on freebmd.org.uk using surnames Mossop/Jones in search fields.
Possible marriage Teeside 1968?
and is possibly on 2014 electoral roll Cleveland area.
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