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i have this gentleman on my tree, i found his birth is sheppey, kent on 11 september 1870 ancestry has his birth as sheerness, but am unable to find census records for him in 1871, he married a local lady caroline mary louisa lewis on 1897 in milford haven, in 1881 states he is with his dad christian t polkinghorn, i cannot find a birth or marriage for the dad the 1881 citation is
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Class: RG11; Piece: 5412; Folio: 61; Page: 32; GSU roll: 1342303

can you help please

just did a search for polkinghorn in pembroke dock for a 1834 birth and the name comes up as olingham thomas polkinghorn

Just for a bit of bit of background

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, Llanreath, Pembroke St Mary, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Priscilla Polkinghorn Head Widow Female 80 1801 Devonport, Devon, England - Transcription
Christian T Polkinghorn Son Widower Male 47 1834 Pembrokeshire, Wales Joiner Transcription
Mary L Polkinghorn Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Sheerness, Kent, England - Transcription
James D Polkinghorn Grand Son Single Male 14 1867 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar Transcription
Arthur J Gwilliam Grand Son Single Male 10 1871 Sheerness, Kent, England Scholar Transcription

Name: Chiamham Thomas Polkinghorn
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1834
Baptism Place: Saint Mary,Pembroke,Pembroke,Wales
Father: John Polkinghorn
Mother: Priscilla
FHL Film Number: 105196

Name: Chimham Thomas Polkinghorn
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Bridge
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 873
Records on Page:
Name
Jane Carey
Chimham Thomas Polkinghorn
Chunham Thomas Polkinghorn

Name: Chimham Polkinghorn
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Sheppey
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1039
Records on Page:
Name
Thomas Kitching
Mary Moriarty
Chimham Polkinghorn

How does any of the above tally with the child's surname? Did he name the Polkinghorn chap on his marriage cert?

Name: Arthur John Gwilliam
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Sheppey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 737

Do you have his birth certificate?

How do you know that he was the son of Christian Polkinghorn?

He is noted as Grandson on the 1881 census, it may be that he was the son of another of Priscilla Polkinghorn's children?

1861
Name: Christiann T Polkinghorn
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Polkinghorne
Where born: South Wales, Pernssoke
Civil Parish: Minster in Sheppey
Ecclesiastical parish: Sheerness
Town: Sheerness
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Sheppey
Sub-registration district: Minster
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 531
Folio: 161
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Christiann T Polkinghorn 27
Mary Polkinghorne 24
Mary L Polkinghorne 2
John T Polkinghorne 1

Where did you find his exact date of birth? Was it on 1939 register?



Gwilliam Household (3 People)
9 Priory Road , Milford Haven U.D., Pembrokeshire, Wales

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Arthur J Gwilliam 11 Sep 1870 Male Retired Mastr? Married 304 1
Caroline M L Gwilliam 24 Jun 1870 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 304 2
Emily M Gwilliam 16 May 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 304 3

1861
Name: Mary Polkinghorn
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Polkinghorn
Mother's name: Priscilla Polkinghorn
Gender: Female
Where born: Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Pembroke St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Pembroke Dock
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pembroke
Sub-registration district: Tenby
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 2476
Folio: 509
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members:
Name Age
John Polkinghorn 49
Priscilla Polkinghorn 50
Cheinham Polkinghorn 17
Rebecca Polkinghorn 13
Mary Polkinghorn 9
George Polkinghorn 8

1841
Name: Mary Elizabeth Ostrich Polkinghorn
[Mary Elizabeth Polkinghorn]
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Hundred: Pembroke
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pembroke
Sub-registration district: Pembroke
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1451
Book: 1
Folio: 57
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ostrich Polkinghorn 39
Pricilla Ostrich Polkinghorn 40
John Henry Ostrich Polkinghorn 17
Pricilla Ann Ostrich Polkinghorn 14
Ormond Thomas Ostrich Polkinghorn 13
Samuel James Ostrich Polkinghorn 9
Olingham Thomas Ostrich Polkinghorn 7
Rebecka Louisa Ostrich Polkinghorn 4
Mary Elizabeth Ostrich Polkinghorn 1 Mo


ancestry gives this as her death:-

Name: Mary Elizabeth Gwilliam
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Haverfordwest
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 603


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Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)

POLKINGHORN Mary Elizabeth Pembroke 11a 1203
Williams John Pembroke 11a 1203

...........so looks as though Arthur John Gwilliam was the son of Mary Elizabeth Polkinghorn and not Christian Polkinghorn as you thought.

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4281941/4281949/68/

(her Death above 1909)

Chris :)

http://newspapers.library.wales/


Birth
GWILLIAM, ARTHUR JOHN (POLKINGHORN)
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in SHEPPEY Volume 02A Page 737

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

(Birth reference from above)


Baptism
County Pembrokeshire
Place Pembroke
Church name St John
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 04 Feb 1852
Person forename Mary Elizabeth
Person sex F
Father forename John Ostrick
Father surname POLKINGHORNE
Mother forename Priscilla

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Deaths Dec 1894 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
Gwilliam John 64 Haverfordwest 11a 638

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
East Lane, Minster, Sheppey, Kent, England
ip Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation
Pembrokeshire, Wales ???ham J Pilkingham Head - Male 37 1834 - Transcription
Kent, England John T Pilkingham Son - Male 11 1860 - Transcription
Kent, England James D Pilkingham Son - Male 4 1867 - Transcription
Pembrokeshire, Wales Mary Williams Sister-In-Law - Female 30 1841 - Transcription
Pembrokeshire, Wales John Williams Brother-In-Law - Male 41 1830 - Transcription
Pembrokeshire, Wales Emily Williams Niece - Female 6 1865 - Transcription
Kent, England Arthur Williams Nephew - Male 0 1871 - Transcription
Pembrokeshire, Wales William Pilkingham Nephew - Male 21 1850 - Transcription
Kent, England George S Wood Boarder - Male 27 1844 -

Marriages Dec 1863 (>99%)

POLKINGHORN Mary Elizabeth Pembroke 11a 1203
Williams John Pembroke 11a 1203

I see ErikaH has already posted 1871 census so will not post again.

1881

Name: Mary E. Gwilliam
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Gwilliam
Gender: Female
Where born: St Marys Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Steynton
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Charles St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Haverfordwest
Sub registration district: Milford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5415
Folio: 18
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Gwilliam 50 (Naval Pensioner)
Mary E. Gwilliam 39
Eva L. Gwilliam 9
Mary M. Gwilliam 7
Priscilla A. Gwilliam 3
Laura Gwilliam 1
Mary Gwilliam 52 (not transcribed) (sister)

Saw below...

Chris :)

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Arthur
Last name Gwilliam
Birth year 1870
Birth date 11 Sep 1870
Event year 1875
School name Upper Meyrick Street and Albion Square School, Pembroke Dock
Town Pembroke Dock
County Pembrokeshire
Country Wales
Parent name(s) John
Book type Admissions
Archive reference SSR/1/96/6
(Address, Lewis Street)


1891 (Find My Past)
John Gwilliam Head Married Male 61 1830 Pembrokeshire, Wales Grocer
Mary E Gwilliam Wife Married Female 49 1842 Pembrokeshire, Wales -
Mary M Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Pembrokeshire, Wales Dressmaker
Priscilla A Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 15 1876 Pembrokeshire, Wales Apprentice Maker
Laura P Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Pembrokeshire, Wales Scholar
Robert Street, Steynton, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales


1901 (Find My Past)
Mary Elizabeth Gwilliam Head Widow Female 59 1842 Pembrokeshire, Wales Grocer
Emily Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 36 1865 Pembrokeshire, Wales -
Priscilla Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 23 1878 Pembrokeshire, Wales Tailoress
Laura Gwilliam Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Pembrokeshire, Wales Tailoress
Benjamin David Harries Boarder Single Male 24 1877 Radnorshire, Wales Police Constable
David Griffiths Boarder Single Male 42 1859 Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales Police Constable
25, Robert Street, Milford Haven, Milford, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire,


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3063765/3063767/4/

(Laura Marriage 1902)

sorry not got back been in bed with flu

wow thank you i will look through these this aussie flu is awful