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19 Jan 2018 20:01 |
Thanks ErikaH.
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19 Jan 2018 19:48 |
Name: Phebe Willington Gender: Female Birth Date: 11 Oct 1810 Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1811 Baptism Place: Providence Chapel Tichfield Street and Grays Inn Lst Marylebonet,St Marylebone,London,England Father: Thomas Willington Mother: Jane
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19 Jan 2018 19:45 |
Name: Phoebe Willington Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 5 Jan 1836 Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England Spouse: Thomas William Grigson Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Thomas Willington, Snr and Jane Willington
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19 Jan 2018 19:45 |
I think they are related somehow. I am slowly untangling this wonderful complexity !!
The marriage entry (On Ancestry) states James was 27, Jane as 29. Definitely 27 & 29 NOT 37 or 39. .
Now, either she IS 29 years of age at her wedding, OR she is lying and is actually 39, which ties in with above post by ErikaH !!
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19 Jan 2018 19:44 |
Name: Jane Willuyter [Jane Willington] Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 [1814] Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Kentish Town Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 683 Book: 6 Folio: 10 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Willuyter 65 Jane Willuyter 55 Jane Willuyter 20 Sarah Willuyter 18 Joseph Willuyter 17
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19 Jan 2018 19:37 |
Just because it came up whilst looking around - were the Grigsons and Willingtons already related?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: GRIGSON, JANE WILLINGTON WILLINGTON Order GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 271 Order EDIT - guess so as ErikaH has posted above census!
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19 Jan 2018 19:30 |
Name: Jane Willington Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relation: Sister-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Grays Inn, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerstone West Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Piece: 1537 Folio: 523 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Thomas W Grigson 52 Phoebe Grigson 39 James Grigson 26 Samuel Grigson 13 John W Grigson 11 Jane W Grigson 9 Phoebe W Grigson 7 Joshua W Grigson 5 Caroline W Grigson 2 Martha W Grigson 2 Mo Jane Willington 34 Thomas Willington 80 Jane Willington 70
Name: Jane Willington Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Nov 1814 Baptism Date: 16 Apr 1815 Baptism Place: Providence Chapel Tichfield Street and Grays Inn Lst Marylebonet,St Marylebone,London,England Father: Thomas Willington Mother: Jane
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greyghost
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19 Jan 2018 19:30 |
I guess not !
England & Wales Non-conformist burials Transcription
First name(s) Alice Jane Last name Grigson Age 5 Birth year 1856 Death year 1861 Death date ? ? 1861 Burial year 1861 Burial date 12 May 1861 Place Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery Burial place as transcribed London Denomination - County Middlesex Country England The National Archives reference TNA/RG/8/45 Description Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery: Burials. Vol 4 Indexed Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Record
------------------------------- England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ALICE JANE Last name GRIGSON Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1861 District Strand County London Volume 1B Page 288
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19 Jan 2018 19:30 |
Alice died June quarter, 1861.
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ErikaH
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19 Jan 2018 19:28 |
Alice died in 1861
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19 Jan 2018 19:28 |
From findmypast
Piece number 693 is missing from the 1881 census: house numbers 17-22 Cunard Street, Camberwell, London.
Part of house number 16 could be missing too if the house contained more children, a boarder or a visitor.
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greyghost
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19 Jan 2018 19:26 |
Also a daughter Alice - have you tracked her?
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 16, Essex Street, St Clement Danes, Strand, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Grigson Head Married Male 35 1826 Compositor Camden Town, Middlesex, England Jane Grigson Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Middlesex, England Thomas J Grigson Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Middlesex, England Alice J Grigson Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Middlesex, England
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19 Jan 2018 19:24 |
Not with son Thomas
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Orford Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Thomas J Grigson Head Married Male 28 1853 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Bank Accountant Mary Ann Grigson Wife Married Female 26 1855 Yorkshire, England - Harry V Grigson Son Single Male 4 1877 South Hackney, Middlesex, England - Mary A Baker Servant Single Female 16 1865 Hackney, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
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19 Jan 2018 19:24 |
Thanks Greyghost, that's them!
Thanks ErikaH. The birth year is a bit out! Might be a transcription error ?
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19 Jan 2018 19:20 |
For info - ? your family
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Caledonian Road, Islington, London & Middlesex, England
Birth place First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Middlesex, England James Grigson Head - Male 45 1826 - Middlesex, England Jane Grigson Wife - Female 47 1824 - Middlesex, England Thomas J Grigson Son - Male 17 1854
James is a Railway Ticket Printer and Thomas an Accountants Clerk. All b Pancras
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19 Jan 2018 19:17 |
Name: Jane Grigson [Jane Willington] Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Registration Year: 1873 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 57 Registration district: Islington
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19 Jan 2018 19:06 |
Am looking for James Grigson / Gregson born c1825 in Camden Town / St. Pancras area of London.
Just cannot find him in 1881. He married Jane Willington in 1852 at St. Leonard, Shoreditch.
I have them on 1861 & 71, but in 1891 & 1901 James is a widower.
Can anybody please help me here??
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