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I wanted to find out about Edward Davis, father of alfred thomas davis and edwards father edward

married 10 Aug 1843 Matilda Gough, st john the baptist, St John Baptist, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.on the marriage record he is listed as miller and "of age" (no helpful i agree) his father is listed as sawyer.

Alfred Thomas Davis(Dentist) Born 24/06/1844 to edward davis, a widower and matilda gough (1815) listed as living in rudge, somerset

listed as west harptree in one btispm with birth date

and 2nd baptism same birth date same parents, temple bristol.

Edward disappears i assume he died but the common place name is not helping.

Matilda Davis and son move to upper easton bristol with her parents elizabeth and samuel died the previous year. they only had one child together before matilda married william baynton wyatt.

So primarily i would want to know about the edwards of the davis

Thank you

Ben

1911

Name: Alfred Thomas Davis
Age in 1911: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire
Civil Parish: Banbury
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County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Street address: 24 Market Place Banbury Oxon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 46
Estimated Marriage Year: 1865
Occupation: surgeon Dentist
Registration district: Banbury
Registration District Number: 158
Sub-registration district: Banbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 8294
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Thomas Davis 67
Elizabeth Davis 65
Arnold Court 22
Mary Jane Braggins 23

I see we've investigated this family before:


Alfred in 1861:

Alfred T Davis
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Alfred T Davis
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1845
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Owen
Gender: Male
Where born: West Harptree, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Piece: 1731
Folio: 34
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Gough 79
Elizabeth Owen 57
Alfred T Davis 16
Sarah Alsop 19

I see I commented on Ancestry four years ago:

"Elizabeth Owen was his aunt, not his mother. His mother was Matilda Davis, nee Gough.Per baptism record, & 1851 census."

1851 for ref.

Name: Matilda Davis
[Matilda Gough]
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Daughter***************************************
Mother's name: Elizabeth Gough
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil Parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 1953
Folio: 317
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Gough 66
Elizabeth Owen 41
Matilda Davis 36*************
Alfred Davis 6*************

Thank you i have the information pot 1843 you see and im stuck with pre this ost and thats the point i need help with.

Thank you

Edward was a widower, if the transcription is correct;



Edward Davis
in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933
Name: Edward Davis
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1843
Marriage Place: Bristol, St John the Baptist, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Edward Davis
Spouse: Matilda Gough

Is this Matilda on the 51 census?

Name:
Matilda Wyatt
Age:
25
Estimated birth year:
abt 1826
Relation:
Wife
Spouse's Name:
William Wyatt
Where born:
Bagnall, Staffordshire, England


Household Members:
William Wyatt 29
Matilda Wyatt 25
Agness Wyatt 1

But isn't this her also in 51?

Matilda Davis
in the 1851 England Census
Name:
Matilda Davis
[Matilda Gough]
Age:
36
Estimated birth year:
abt 1815
Relation:
Daughter
Mother's name:
Elizabeth Gough
Where born:
Bristol
Civil Parish:
Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Mark
County/Island:
Gloucestershire
Registration district:
Clifton
Sub-registration district:
Ashley
Household Members:

Elizabeth Gough 66
Elizabeth Owen 41
Matilda Davis 36
Alfred Davis 6

Maybe a possibility for Edward's death, if he died before Alfred was born ??

Edward Davis
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Edward Davis
Registration Year: 1844
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Clutton
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 11
Page: 87



EDIT:

No, that one was aged 11 - either years or months.

Do we know what year Edward Davis was born or where please?

Re MargaretM's query about 1851:

William Baynton Wyatt
in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933
Name: William Baynton Wyatt
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 20 Jul 1848
Marriage Place: Bristol, St James, Gloucestershire, England
Father: Richard Wyatt
Spouse: Matilda Davis



William Baynton Wyatt
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: William Baynton Wyatt
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 22 Dec 1819
Baptism Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father: Richard Wyatt
Mother: Sarah Wyatt
FHL Film Number: 1596678



So this looks like William in 1851:

William B Wyatt
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William B Wyatt
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Sarah Wyatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol St Phillips Out
Civil Parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 101
Piece: 1954
Folio: 121
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Wyatt 49
William B Wyatt 31 - married - journeyman carrier (maybe currier?)
George H Wyatt 18
Elizabeth B Wyatt 15



Matilda's listing as Davis in 1851 could be an assumption on the enumerator's part, because Alfred's name is Davis.
Or maybe she and William had separated, and she'd reverted to her maiden name ??


However, that's no help with Edward!

Looking around on google search (queries) he Married previously, Jane Lester, Daughter Mary Jane?...

Chris :)

County Somerset
Place Glastonbury
Church name St John
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 12
Marriage date 07 Feb 1838
Groom forename Edward
Groom surname DAVIS
Groom age full age
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode High Street
Groom occupation Labourer
Bride forename Jane
Bride surname LESTER
Bride age full age
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Old Wells Road
Groom father forename Edward
Groom father surname DAVIS
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname LESTER
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness Richard HANCOCK
Witness Maryann HANCOCK
Register note Bishops Transcript


Baptism
County Somerset
Place Glastonbury
Church name St Benedict
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 03 Jun 1838
Person forename Mary Jane
Person abode St Benedict St
Father forename Edward
Father surname DAVIS
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Jane

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


1841 (Find My Past)
Edward Davis Male 20 1821 Somerset, England (Ag. Lab)
Jane Davis Female 20 1821 Somerset, England
Mary Jane Davis Female 3 1838 Somerset, England
Old Wells Road, Glastonbury St Benedict & St John, Wells, Somerset


Burial
County Somerset
Place Glastonbury
Church name St John
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 1287
Burial date 08 Jul 1842
Person age 24
Burial person forename Jane
Burial person surname DAVIS
Burial person abode Old Wells Road
Register note Bishops Transcript

?
Burial
County Somerset
Place Glastonbury
Church name St John
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 1398
Burial date 15 Jan 1845
Person age 26
Burial person forename Edward
Burial person surname DAVIS
Burial person abode Old Wells Road
Register note Bishops Transcript


Baptism
County Somerset
Place West Harptree
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 627
Baptism date 08 Jul 1844
Birth date 24 Jun 1844
Person forename Alfred Thomas
Person sex M
Person abode Miller
Father forename Edward
Father surname DAVIS
Mother forename Matilda


Deaths Mar 1845 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------
GOUGH Samuel Clifton 11 257

11 January 1845 - Bristol Mercury - Bristol, Bristol, England

Death
Jan. 7, aged 55, Mr. Samuel Gough, Upper Easton,

Well found, Chris!

Edward's daughter Mary Jane in 1851:


Mary Jane Davis
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Mary Jane Davis
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Glastonbury, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Glastonbury St John the Baptist
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Glastonbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Piece: 1935
Folio: 255
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Rhoda Lester 33
Thomas Lester 6
Emma Lester 4
Charles Lester 2
Mary Jane Davis 12

(trouble is, those Burials added above!, one being Edward? (both from 1841 address)

Not sure how Ben came across this Edward...

Chris :)

The 1845 burial for Edward could well be correct, Chris.

I expect Edward continued living at the same address after Jane died in 1842, and then Matilda went to live with him there after their marriage in 1843.


Not sure what you mean, wondering about how Ben came across Edward?
Alfred's birth record states father Edward and mother Matilda, and from the 1851 census his mother is Matilda nee Gough.
Edward & Matilda's marriage record says he was a widower, and his father was Edward

(apologies there AG, got muddled thinking Marriage to Matilda was 1846!)

Chris :)

Thank you. No idea when he was born or where the marriage certificate is not helpful. Jane lester I came across this before but that's also St. John the Baptist but this is in Glastonbury and Edward and Matilda were married at St. John the Baptist in Bristol. So I am not convinced on this

(thought perhaps you wasn't, which is why you didn't mention it, lol)

Chris :)

Don't suppose the Witnesses held a clue?...

But Matilda was born and lived in Bristol before marriage, so that's where her marriage would take place.

Jane Lester presumably lived in Glastonbury, and therefore her marriage took place there.

I don't see any problem with that.