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Ethel Barrett

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1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 15 Dec 2017 10:46

Thanks Chris Ho ;)

I have all that info thanks, it's Mary BarrettI was interested in, I will send for the birth cert of Mary, whether there is some confusion with May and Mary i'm not sure as they were both born in 1900 each end of the year though, could be possible, she would have to have been pregnant soon after May was born!

It appears she was a very loose woman and in Service.

cheers
Ron Wood

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Dec 2017 07:19

Baptism image for above 1900 (5th Sept.) Beatrice May (Find My Past) says Born January 24th. Abode, 2, Britannia Place. No Father named)

Chris :)

(there is below also, but image not opening at present, to check!)

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 (Find My Past)
First name(s) May Beatrice
Last name Barrett
Birth year 1900
Birth date 27 Jan 1900
Event year 1907
School name St Mary'S Shrewsbury School
Town Shrewsbury
County Shropshire
Parent name(s) Barrett John


First name(s) Doris
Last name Barrett
Birth year 1905
Birth date 28 Dec 1905
Event year 1912
School name St Mary'S Shrewsbury School
Town Shrewsbury
County Shropshire
Parent name(s) Barrett Maud


1911 (Find My Past)
Maud Watkins Head Widow Female Charwoman 26 1885 Salop Shrewsbury
May Barrett Daughter - Female School 11 1900 Salop Shrewsbury
Doris Barrett Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Salop Shrewsbury
James Watkins Son - Male School 3 1908 Salop Shrewsbury
Minnie Merril Visitor Single Female General Servant 17 1894 Salop Shrewsbury
Elizabeth Churms Lodger Married Female - 31 1880 Salop Shrewsbury
William Steadman Son - Male School 12 1899 Salop Shrewsbury
Alice Churms Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Salop Shrewsbury
John Churms Son - Male School 8 1903 Salop Shrewsbury
39 Canal Buildings New Park Road Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury St Mary, Shropshire,


Edits (for Abode on 1900 Baptism, ties in with 1901 above)

(passages the other two being Pickens Court/Britannia Place and Bell Passage)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=92534.9

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 23:32

I think the father Barrett is a red herring!!

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 23:27

Thank you ArgyllGran,
I came to the same conclusion having found the same as yourself!

Beatrice Maud was quite a woman, she was in service and had a few children out of wedlock, my mother being one of them although she had taken the name watkins as Maud married John Watkins and he died before my mother was born she was Mary Elizabeth. I never knew maud as she died in 1935, my mother did'nt have many good words for her and that's all I could get from her!!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Dec 2017 22:04

I think this is the grand-daughter Mary - indeed Beatrice Maud's child - presumably known as Mary to distinguish between them:

Beatrice Mary Barrett
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Beatrice Mary Barrett
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 5 Sep 1900
Baptism Place: St. Mary's, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Father: Barrett
Mother: Beatrice Maud
FHL Film Number: 1702196

I don't see the birth on GRO or FreeBMD.


EDIT:

Maybe this one? It doesn't come up on GRO website search, but it's on the Index:

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
BARRETT Beatrice May Atcham 6a 691

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 21:50

Selina's marriage 1902 not 1901 sorry typo error :-(

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 21:40

Elizabeth married Albert Churms 22/10/1898 that why she not on 1901 census with Father.

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 21:22

Selina married James Taylor 20/01/1901.

Not seeing Mary Barrett at this time but will investigate,but, if you cannot find her i'm sure i will have problems !!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2017 20:58

Do you know who the parents were of the granddaughter Mary who is with the family in 1901 please? Not seeing a birth registered in Shropshire for her.

Selina, Beatrice's sister married in 1902.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2017 20:47

There was also a daughter Elizabeth although she's not with them on that 1901 census

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Park Street, Shrewsbury, Atcham, Shropshire, England

William Barrett Head Married Male 41 1850 Joiner Shropshire, England
Annie E Barrett Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Shropshire, England
James W Barrett Son Single Male 18 1873 Engine Cleaner Shropshire, England
Fred W Barrett Son Single Male 15 1876 - Shropshire, England
Herbert Barrett Son - Male 14 1877 - Shropshire, England
Elizabeth A Barrett Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Shropshire, England
Selina Barrett Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Shropshire, England
Beatrice M Barrett Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Shropshire, England
Sydney D Barrett Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Shropshire, England

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 19:30

William Barrett was my Great Grandfather and was married to Anne E Hicken who died in 1895 :-D

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 19:24

Hi again rootgatherer,
sorry I didn't get back to you, the wife was chasing me to go out! to complete the story for you .Beatrice Maud Barrett was my Grandmother on my mothers side, she married John Watkins eventually, my mother was born after John Watkins died, still do not know who the father was as was a couple of my aunts/uncles, sadly my mother is dead and taken all the gaudy secrets to her grave, I could not get anything from her!
That was why I was enquireing about Ethel as she has only come to light. So as you say will have to send for birth cert to confirm.
Lizzie Barrett I wil also check on. The Pickens Court Barretts are my relations. My mother married James Wood in 1945 all my family live in the Shrewsbury area,whereas I'm down South since I was 9, but that is another story.
Thanks again :-D :-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2017 14:34

And another here



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, St Johns Hill Street Chads Terrace, Shrewsbury St Chad, Atcham, Shropshire, England

Elizabeth C Whitney Head Single Female 70 1831 Living On Own Means Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth M Payne Niece Single Female 27 1874 Governess Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Annie L L Rust Boarder Single Female 48 1853 Living On Own Means Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Lizzie Barrett Servant Single Female 17 1884 General Domestic Condover, Shropshire, England

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 14:32

Thanks rootgatherer,
I have my suspicions that she was illegitimate and her mother was Beatrice Maud Barrett, like you say may have to send for birth cert
Thanks again

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2017 14:32

Couple of possibles here if the mother lived in the area.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pickins Court, 2, Castle Foregate, Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury St Mary, Atcham, Shropshire, England

William Barrett Head Widower Male 68 1833 Joiner Condover, Shropshire, England
Selina Barrett Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Housemaid (Out Of Work) Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Beatrice M Barrett Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Housemaid (Out Of Work) Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
Sydney D Barrett Son Single Male 16 1885 Errand Boy Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Mary Barrett Grand Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Minnie Berwick Merril Nursery - Female 7 1894 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2017 14:19

No mother's maiden surname given on the GRO index so it looks like an illegitimate birth. I think you would need to buy the certificate to find the mother's name.

1066ronnie

1066ronnie Report 14 Dec 2017 14:12

Hi Good "Peeps"
Was wondering if you could help me with the above who was registered born Atcham 1901 Q4 6A/630 and died registered Atcham Q1 6A/489.
I am trying to find who parents were, other than sending away for birth certificate, was hoping some kind person would help.
Here's hoping
Ron Wood :-D :-D