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1066ronnie
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15 Dec 2017 10:46 |
Thanks Chris Ho ;)
I have all that info thanks, it's Mary BarrettI was interested in, I will send for the birth cert of Mary, whether there is some confusion with May and Mary i'm not sure as they were both born in 1900 each end of the year though, could be possible, she would have to have been pregnant soon after May was born!
It appears she was a very loose woman and in Service.
cheers Ron Wood
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Chris Ho :)
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15 Dec 2017 07:19 |
Baptism image for above 1900 (5th Sept.) Beatrice May (Find My Past) says Born January 24th. Abode, 2, Britannia Place. No Father named)
Chris :)
(there is below also, but image not opening at present, to check!)
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 (Find My Past) First name(s) May Beatrice Last name Barrett Birth year 1900 Birth date 27 Jan 1900 Event year 1907 School name St Mary'S Shrewsbury School Town Shrewsbury County Shropshire Parent name(s) Barrett John
First name(s) Doris Last name Barrett Birth year 1905 Birth date 28 Dec 1905 Event year 1912 School name St Mary'S Shrewsbury School Town Shrewsbury County Shropshire Parent name(s) Barrett Maud
1911 (Find My Past) Maud Watkins Head Widow Female Charwoman 26 1885 Salop Shrewsbury May Barrett Daughter - Female School 11 1900 Salop Shrewsbury Doris Barrett Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Salop Shrewsbury James Watkins Son - Male School 3 1908 Salop Shrewsbury Minnie Merril Visitor Single Female General Servant 17 1894 Salop Shrewsbury Elizabeth Churms Lodger Married Female - 31 1880 Salop Shrewsbury William Steadman Son - Male School 12 1899 Salop Shrewsbury Alice Churms Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Salop Shrewsbury John Churms Son - Male School 8 1903 Salop Shrewsbury 39 Canal Buildings New Park Road Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury St Mary, Shropshire,
Edits (for Abode on 1900 Baptism, ties in with 1901 above)
(passages the other two being Pickens Court/Britannia Place and Bell Passage)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=92534.9
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14 Dec 2017 23:32 |
I think the father Barrett is a red herring!!
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14 Dec 2017 23:27 |
Thank you ArgyllGran, I came to the same conclusion having found the same as yourself!
Beatrice Maud was quite a woman, she was in service and had a few children out of wedlock, my mother being one of them although she had taken the name watkins as Maud married John Watkins and he died before my mother was born she was Mary Elizabeth. I never knew maud as she died in 1935, my mother did'nt have many good words for her and that's all I could get from her!!
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14 Dec 2017 22:04 |
I think this is the grand-daughter Mary - indeed Beatrice Maud's child - presumably known as Mary to distinguish between them:
Beatrice Mary Barrett in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Beatrice Mary Barrett Gender: Female Baptism Date: 5 Sep 1900 Baptism Place: St. Mary's, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Father: Barrett Mother: Beatrice Maud FHL Film Number: 1702196
I don't see the birth on GRO or FreeBMD.
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Maybe this one? It doesn't come up on GRO website search, but it's on the Index:
Births Mar 1900 (>99%) BARRETT Beatrice May Atcham 6a 691
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14 Dec 2017 21:50 |
Selina's marriage 1902 not 1901 sorry typo error :-(
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1066ronnie
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14 Dec 2017 21:40 |
Elizabeth married Albert Churms 22/10/1898 that why she not on 1901 census with Father.
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1066ronnie
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14 Dec 2017 21:22 |
Selina married James Taylor 20/01/1901.
Not seeing Mary Barrett at this time but will investigate,but, if you cannot find her i'm sure i will have problems !!
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14 Dec 2017 20:58 |
Do you know who the parents were of the granddaughter Mary who is with the family in 1901 please? Not seeing a birth registered in Shropshire for her.
Selina, Beatrice's sister married in 1902.
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14 Dec 2017 20:47 |
There was also a daughter Elizabeth although she's not with them on that 1901 census
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription New Park Street, Shrewsbury, Atcham, Shropshire, England
William Barrett Head Married Male 41 1850 Joiner Shropshire, England Annie E Barrett Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Shropshire, England James W Barrett Son Single Male 18 1873 Engine Cleaner Shropshire, England Fred W Barrett Son Single Male 15 1876 - Shropshire, England Herbert Barrett Son - Male 14 1877 - Shropshire, England Elizabeth A Barrett Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Shropshire, England Selina Barrett Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Shropshire, England Beatrice M Barrett Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Shropshire, England Sydney D Barrett Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Shropshire, England
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14 Dec 2017 19:30 |
William Barrett was my Great Grandfather and was married to Anne E Hicken who died in 1895 :-D
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14 Dec 2017 19:24 |
Hi again rootgatherer, sorry I didn't get back to you, the wife was chasing me to go out! to complete the story for you .Beatrice Maud Barrett was my Grandmother on my mothers side, she married John Watkins eventually, my mother was born after John Watkins died, still do not know who the father was as was a couple of my aunts/uncles, sadly my mother is dead and taken all the gaudy secrets to her grave, I could not get anything from her! That was why I was enquireing about Ethel as she has only come to light. So as you say will have to send for birth cert to confirm. Lizzie Barrett I wil also check on. The Pickens Court Barretts are my relations. My mother married James Wood in 1945 all my family live in the Shrewsbury area,whereas I'm down South since I was 9, but that is another story. Thanks again :-D :-D
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14 Dec 2017 14:34 |
And another here
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, St Johns Hill Street Chads Terrace, Shrewsbury St Chad, Atcham, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth C Whitney Head Single Female 70 1831 Living On Own Means Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Elizabeth M Payne Niece Single Female 27 1874 Governess Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Annie L L Rust Boarder Single Female 48 1853 Living On Own Means Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Lizzie Barrett Servant Single Female 17 1884 General Domestic Condover, Shropshire, England
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14 Dec 2017 14:32 |
Thanks rootgatherer, I have my suspicions that she was illegitimate and her mother was Beatrice Maud Barrett, like you say may have to send for birth cert Thanks again
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14 Dec 2017 14:32 |
Couple of possibles here if the mother lived in the area.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pickins Court, 2, Castle Foregate, Shrewsbury, Shrewsbury St Mary, Atcham, Shropshire, England
William Barrett Head Widower Male 68 1833 Joiner Condover, Shropshire, England Selina Barrett Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Housemaid (Out Of Work) Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Beatrice M Barrett Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Housemaid (Out Of Work) Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Sydney D Barrett Son Single Male 16 1885 Errand Boy Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Mary Barrett Grand Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Minnie Berwick Merril Nursery - Female 7 1894 - Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
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rootgatherer
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14 Dec 2017 14:19 |
No mother's maiden surname given on the GRO index so it looks like an illegitimate birth. I think you would need to buy the certificate to find the mother's name.
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14 Dec 2017 14:12 |
Hi Good "Peeps" Was wondering if you could help me with the above who was registered born Atcham 1901 Q4 6A/630 and died registered Atcham Q1 6A/489. I am trying to find who parents were, other than sending away for birth certificate, was hoping some kind person would help. Here's hoping Ron Wood :-D :-D
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