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9 Dec 2017 12:29 |
Olive May Smith was born in Oct-Dec 1901 and baptised on 30 May 1902 at Great Limber in Lincolnshire. An Olive May Smith aged 12 years emigrated to Canada under the auspices of the Salvation Army on the ship Andania, from Southampton on 17.7.1913 arriving at Quebec on 26.7.1913. On 12 May 1956 John Arthur Tydeman, b. 6.10.1881 England, died at Vancouver Briitish Columbia. His wife was shown as Olive May Smith.
I am trying to connect the three Olive May Smith or eliminate them as not the same person.
Can anyone help please.
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9 Dec 2017 12:50 |
Looking at the BAC
Just for ref, have you checked to see if the other girls were related?
SMITH Florence 12 ANDANIA 1913 SMITH Elizabeth 10 ANDANIA 1913 SMITH Olive May 12 ANDANIA 1913
Item: Olive May SMITH (86785) Given Name(s): Olive May Surname: SMITH Gender: F Age: 12 Year of Arrival: 1913 Ship: ANDANIA Date of Departure: 1913-07-17 Port of Departure: Southampton Date of Arrival: 1913-07-26 Port of Arrival: Quebec Children travelling together: Q13GB Comments: Individuals Type of Records: Passenger Lists Microfilm Reel Number: T-4801 Reference: RG 76 C1a Source: Library and Archives Canada Database Item Number: 86785
? 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Blyborough Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire, Blyborough, Lincolnshire, England William Smith Head Married Male Farm Labourer 35 1876 Hatcliffe Linconshire Annie Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female - 33 1878 Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire Ivy Annie Smith Daughter - Female School 10 1901 Limber Lincolnshire Olive May Smith Daughter - Female School 9 1902 Limber Lincolnshire Harry Smith Son - Male - 2 1909 Blyborough Lincolnshire John Spindley Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 21 1890 Burringham Lincolnshire John Hollingsworth Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 17 1894 Blyton Lincolnshire Harold Ashley Boarder Single Male Farm Waggoner 19 1892 Broughton Lincolnshire Alice Taylor Visitor Single Female - 17 1894 Kirton Lindsey Lincolnshire
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9 Dec 2017 13:01 |
again just for ref Lincolnshire Baptisms
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms First name(s) Olive May Sex Female Last name Smith Baptism year 1902 Birth year 1901 County Lincolnshire Country England Place Great Limber Mother's first name(s) Annie Elizabeth Father's first name(s) William Page 38 Birth date 17 Oct 1901 Baptism date 30 Mar 1902 Archive Lincolnshire Archives Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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9 Dec 2017 13:09 |
DOB a year out but that is not unusual
Scoffin Household (4 People) 58 Ville Road , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
Olive M Scoffin 17 Oct 1902 Female Unpd Dom Duties - 391 2 David W Scoffin 25 Sep 1894 Male General Labourer Married 391 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Eileen Barley (Scoffin) 29 Jun 1929 Female At School Married 391 4
Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%) Smith Olive M Scoffin Glanford B. 7a 1825
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
First name(s) Olive May Last name Smith Name note - Age 23 Marriage year 1925 Marriage date 20 May 1925 Marriage place Kirton-In-Lindsey Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Smith Spouse's first name(s) David William Spouse's last name Scoffin Spouse's birth year 1895 Spouse's birth date 1895 Spouse's father's first name(s) William David Spouse's father's last name Scoffin Residence Kirton-in-Lindsey, Lincoln, England County Lincolnshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
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9 Dec 2017 13:14 |
There's almost 20 years age difference between John and the Olive you are looking at - what leads you to think this is the right Olive May? Are you coming at this from John's family or Olive's - and what other info do you have?
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9 Dec 2017 13:24 |
From http://theweald.org/N10d.asp?NId=5582440
13. John Arthur Tydeman was the son of Marcus Jabez Tydeman, draper and Charlotte Mary Tydeman [Newman]. He was born 6th Oct 1881 at Rye, Sussex, registered at Rye District, Sussex, ref: 1881 Q4 Vol 2b Page 3; died 1956 at Alberta, Canada He married Olive Mary Smith on 16th Aug 1916 at USA. She was born c 1880
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9 Dec 2017 13:31 |
Death confirming information from Nyx:
First name(s) OLIVE MAY Last name SCOFFIN Gender Female Birth day 17 October 1901 Death quarter 4 Death year 1994 District Scunthorpe District number 5541A Register number A35B Entry number 039 Date of registration mm/yy 1294
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9 Dec 2017 13:36 |
Well something's not adding up,see mother's name for John here, does not match other details on the weald site for his mother?
Olive May Smith mentioned in the record of John Arthur Tydeman Name Olive May Smith Sex Unknown Husband John Arthur Tydeman Other information in the record of John Arthur Tydeman from British Columbia Death Registrations Name John Arthur Tydeman Event Type Death Event Date 12 May 1956 Event Place Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Gender Male Age 74 Marital Status Married Birth Date 06 Oct 1881 Birth Year (Estimated) 1882 Birthplace , England Father's Name Tydeman Mother's Name Margaret <<<< Spouse's Name Olive May Smith
Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
Newman Charlotte Mary Farnham 2a 154 TYDEMAN Marcus Jabez Farnham 2a 154
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9 Dec 2017 14:01 |
Olive May Scoffin in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Of 5 St Catherines Court, Ashby, Scunthorpe South...Not Exceeding £125.000
David William Scoffin in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: David William Scoffin Death Age: 85 Birth Date: 25 Sep 1894 Registration Date: Mar 1980 Registration district: Scunthorpe Inferred County: Humberside Volume: 7 Page: 1256
David William Scoffin in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Of 58 Ville Road, Ashby, Scunthorpe........£8870
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9 Dec 2017 14:22 |
Not finding an Olive Smith on 1921 census for Canada or Tydeman
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9 Dec 2017 14:37 |
John A was on the 1901 with parents 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Station Road, Jarvis Brook, Rotherfield, Uckfield, Sussex, England
Marcus J Tydeman Head Married Male 54 1847 Draper Outfitter & Hair Dresser Chelmsford, Essex, England Charlotte M Tydeman Wife Married Female 53 1848 - Farnham, Surrey, England Edith Tydeman Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Milliner's Assistant Maidstone, Kent, England Albert C Tydeman Son Single Male 20 1881 Drapers Assistant Rye, Sussex, England John A Tydeman Son Single Male 19 1882 Clothier's Assistant Rye, Sussex, England Agnes R Tydeman Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Maidstone, Kent, England
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9 Dec 2017 15:42 |
1939 census shows Olive M Scoffin in Scunthorpe distric with David Scoffin, dob given as 1902 Eileen
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9 Dec 2017 15:53 |
gives full dob, Scoffin Household (4 People) 58 Ville Road , Scunthorpe M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Olive M Scoffin 17 Oct 1902 Female Unpd Dom Duties - 391 2 David W Scoffin 25 Sep 1894 Male General Labourer Married 391 1 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Eileen Barley (Scoffin) 29 Jun 1929 Female At School Married 391 4
Ref: RG101/6451G/011/30 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd
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9 Dec 2017 16:00 |
already posted the 1939, see post at 13.09 and pointed out that it is not uncommon for the DOB to be out by a year or so
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Bruce
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9 Dec 2017 18:32 |
Many thanks everyone for your assistance. It is obvious that the three Olive May Smiths in my original request are not the same person. Once again many thanks
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