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Mary Wiggins in 1911 census, Elizabeth in 1901

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Ronald

Ronald Report 24 Nov 2017 16:45

Thank you both for your prompt replies. I had found the records you cite, so great minds think alike. There were two other children with mmn Webb whom I was unaware of until I saw the 1911 census and the GRO birth index that now includes mmn from 1916 backwards. One died within two days and the other after a few months, sadly.
As you say I think I can safely assume that Elizabeth was Mary, but heavens know where Elizabeth came from.
Best wishes
Ron

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2017 16:32

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Mary A Wiggins in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary A Wiggins
Death Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Date: Jun 1935
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 475


Edward Wiggins in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Edward Wiggins
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Date: Jun 1944
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 637

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Nov 2017 16:27

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
Webb Mary Ann Brentford 3a 94


There was no Elizabeth Webb born in Brentford (which includes Chiswick) 1880-82.

I think it's safe to assume that "Elizabeth" is Mary.




Mary Ann Webb
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Webb
Gender: Female
Age: 10
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1881
Father: Edward Webb
Mother: Mary Ann Webb
Birth Place: Chiswick, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Chiswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Residence Place: Chiswick, Chiswick, Middlesex, England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Chiswick
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1033
Folio: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Webb 35
Mary Ann Webb 32
Alice Ann Webb 13
Mary Ann Webb 10
Eliza Ellen Webb 9
Beatrice Webb 7
Florance Emily Webb 5
Edward Webb 3
Dorothy Ross Webb 1

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Nov 2017 16:27

A daughter born in 1913 has MMN Webb

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
WIGGINS Doris G Webb Fulham 1a 632

Edward Wiggins on the 1939 Register

Wiggins Household (2 People) Ravenstone Road , Hendon M.B., Middlesex, England

Edward Wiggins 21 Aug 1881 Male Disabled Widowed 127 1
Doris G Wiggins 03 Jul 1913 Female Laundry Hand Single 127 2

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Nov 2017 16:20

Alice's birth ???

WIGGINS, ALICE EDITH mms WEBB
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 128

Parents marriage ??


Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
Webb Mary Ann Brentford 3a 159
Wiggins Edward Brentford 3a 159

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Nov 2017 16:16

For our reference:


Edward Wiggins
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Edward Wiggins
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: ACTON, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 16 Hamble Street, Fulham S W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: WOOD CARRIER
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: South Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Piece: 367
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Wiggins 29
Mary Wiggins 30
Alice Wiggins 12


Alice Wiggins
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Alice Wiggins
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Edward Wiggins
Mother: Elizabeth Wiggins
Birth Place: Chiswick
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 41
Folio: 80
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Wiggins 20
Elizabeth Wiggins 21
Alice Wiggins 2

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Ronald

Ronald Report 24 Nov 2017 15:55

I have Mary (middle name Ann not shown) Wiggins, together with husband Edward and daughter Alice in the 1911 census RG14/367. The marriage has lasted 13 years. In 1901 (RG13/41/80/10) Edward's wife is shown as Elizabeth. The ages (approx.) and birth locations correspond with 1911. I know that names are often used 'loosely' in census records, but....
I've checked to see if any Elizabeth married an Edward Wiggins, but nothing. I then had the bright idea of checking the electoral register for the address (26 Wilton Road, Hammersmith) to see who Edward was shown to be with in 1901, but realised she wouldn't be included.
Any suggestions as to any other way that I might verify that Elizabeth is Mary, or am I being over pedantic?
Thanks in advance
Ron