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20 Nov 2017 08:00 |
Could be below for Parents...(if 1841 posted by Rose earlier)
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England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Joseph Last name Dover Marriage year 1830 Marriage date 24 May 1830 Marriage place Camerton Spouse's first name(s) Isabella Spouse's last name Ferry County Cumberland
Birth DOVER, MARY (FERRY) GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 88
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Mary Last name Dover Gender Female Baptism year 1838 Baptism date 16 Sep 1838 Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England Place Camerton County Cumberland Father's first name(s) Joseph Father's last name Dover Mother's first name(s) Isabella
First name(s) John Last name Dover Gender Male Baptism year 1831 Baptism date 14 Aug 1831 Place Camerton County Cumberland Father's first name(s) Joseph Father's last name Dover Mother's first name(s) Isabella
1851 (Find My Past) Joseph Dover Head Married Male 42 1809 Coal Miner Cumberland, England Isabella Dover Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Seaton, Cumberland, England Joseph Dover Son - Male 9 1842 - Broughton, Cumberland, England William Dover Son - Male 6 1845 - Seaton, Cumberland, England Isabella Dover Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Dearham, Cumberland, England Seaton, Cockermouth, Cumberland,
1861 (Find My Past) Joseph Dover Head Married Male 54 1807 Coal Miner Dearham, Cumberland, England Bella Dover Wife Married Female 48 1813 - Seaton, Cumberland, England William Dover Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Coal Miner Seaton, Cumberland, England Windy Hill, Seaton, Cockermouth, Cumberland
Birth DOVER, ISABELLA (FERRY) GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 108
Birth DOVER, JOSEPH (FERRY) GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 97
Birth DOVER, WILLIAM (FERRY) GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 115
1891 (Find My Past) William Dover Head Married Male 46 1845 Coal Miner Camerton, Cumberland, England Mary D (J) Dover Wife Married Female 25 (45) 1866 - Flimby, Cumberland, England George Dover Son Single Male 17 1874 Engine Man Flimby, Cumberland, England William Dover Son Single Male 15 1876 Pit Boy Driver Flimby, Cumberland, England Thomas Hy Dover Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Flimby, Cumberland, England Joseph Dover Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Flimby, Cumberland, England Hartley Dover Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Flimby, Cumberland, England John R Dover Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Flimby, Cumberland, England Mary D (J) Dover Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Flimby, Cumberland, England Parish Flimby County Cumberland Registration district Cockermouth Archive reference RG12 Piece number 4308 Folio 91 Page 47
1871 (Find My Past) William Dover Head - Male 26 1845 - Cumberland, England (Coal Miner) Mary J Dover Wife - Female 24 1847 - Cumberland, England Street Flimby Village Parish Flimby County Cumberland
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Allen Mary J Cockermouth 10b 781 DOVER William Cockermouth 10b 781
Birth DOVER, GEORGE (ALLAN) GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 563
Births Jun 1882 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- Dover Hartley Allan Cockermouth 10b 587
Birth DOVER, MARY JANE (ALLAN) GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 558
Edits (think below might be Joseph posted by Dea, Death, January 12, Joseph Dover (joiner) son of John, Greta Forge, Keswick 38)
19 January 1849 - Carlisle Journal - Carlisle, Cumbria, England
Wonders who Pauline is linking to?...
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20 Nov 2017 07:16 |
'Morning Sylvia.......
Yes, that's what I had found too.
I also found that Joseph Dover had probably died in 1949 and that Mary Dover was living with her aunt + uncle but couldn't see any trace of Arabella.
I wondered if she had remarried, perhaps accounting for the 'Nicholson' name ? but couldn't find anything.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Bridekirk, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jonathan Carruthers Head Married Male 24 1827 Farm Labourer Great Broughton, Cumberland, England Transcription Mary Carruthers Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Camerton, Cumberland, England Transcription John Willian Carruthers Son - Male - - - Little Broughton, Cumberland, England Transcription Mary Dover Niece - Female 11 1840 - Seaton, Cumberland, England
Death: DOVER, JOSEPH 38 Order GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 25 Page 75
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20 Nov 2017 01:13 |
This looks like Elizabeth in 1851 .................... "Perton" looks more like Seaton on the image!
1851 Census
Name: Elizabeth Dover Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Perton, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Isell, Blindcrake, and Redmain County/Island: Cumberland Country: England
Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Keswick ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 24 Piece: 2434 Folio: 542 Page Number: 8
John Dow 34 Farmer of 126 Acres Jane Dow 37 John Dow 1 Thomas Dow 32 Rachel Gordon 13 Elizabeth Dover 15 Joseph Rowling 45
Address:- no individual addresses given for the farms
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19 Nov 2017 23:02 |
More baptisms (all from FMP)
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Furness Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1854 Baptism date 14 May 1854 Place Medomsley County Durham Country England Father's first name(s) Benjamin Father's last name Furness Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
First name(s) Josephine Last name Furness Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1864 Baptism date 03 Apr 1864 Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England Place Camerton County Cumberland Country England Father's first name(s) Benjamin Father's last name Furness Father's name note Miner Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
First name(s) Joseph Last name Furnes Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1869 Baptism date 14 Feb 1869 Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England Place Camerton County Cumberland Country England Father's first name(s) Benjamin Father's last name Furnes Father's name note Miner Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
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19 Nov 2017 22:52 |
Found Mary Ann Furness's birth registration ...... she was registered in Durham, and mmn is Dover
FURNESS, MARY ANN mmn DOVER GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 172
and Isabella's
FURNACE, ISABELLA JANE mmn DOVER GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in CHESTER LE STREET Volume 10A Page 324
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19 Nov 2017 22:41 |
and ??? Benjamin's baptism
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
First name(s) Benjamin Last name Furness Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1832 Baptism date 24 Jan 1832 Residence Workington, Cumberland, England Place Workington County Cumberland Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Furness Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
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19 Nov 2017 22:37 |
If it was Elizabeth Dover who married or lived with Benjamin Furness, then this could be her baptism ................. note her parents names!
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Dover Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1835 Baptism date 09 Aug 1835 Residence Camerton, Cumberland, England Place Camerton County Cumberland Country England Father's first name(s) Joseph Father's last name Dover Mother's first name(s) Isabella Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, United Kingdom
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19 Nov 2017 21:47 |
Dea ..................
see if you can find an Isabella or Mary Ann Furness!
I've tried, without success
I can find similar names under Dover
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19 Nov 2017 21:36 |
Together in 1861:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 24, Lother Street, Great Clifton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Benjamin Furness Head Married Male 28 1833 Coal Miner Workington, Cumberland, England Transcription Elizabeth Furness Wife Married Female 25 1836 - Seaton, Cumberland, England Transcription Mary Ann Furness Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1854 - Northumberland, England Transcription Isabella Furness Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 - Durham, England
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19 Nov 2017 21:16 |
Is there any possibility that Elizabeth Dover might have married a Mr Nicholson, left him and moved in with Benjamin.
That would account for no marriage being found.
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19 Nov 2017 21:09 |
Two of the children showing on the 1881 Census also have mmn Dover ...............
FURNESS, JOHN mmn DOVER GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 539
FURNESS, BENJAMIN mmn DOVER GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 578
I haven't yet seen a marriage for a Benjamin Furness with a woman called Dover
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19 Nov 2017 21:07 |
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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Town, Camerton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Joseph Dover Male 30 1811 Cumberland, England Arabella Dover Female 25 1816 Cumberland, England John Dover Male 9 1832 Cumberland, England Elizabeth Dover Female 5 1836 Cumberland, England <<<<<< Mary Dover Female 2 1839 Cumberland, England
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19 Nov 2017 21:02 |
for ref
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Camerton, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
Benjamin Furness Head Married Male 49 1832 Coalminer Workington, Cumberland, England Elizabeth Furness Wife Married Female 45 1836 Coalminers Wife Workington, Cumberland, England Jessy Furness Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Coalminers Daughter Camerton, Cumberland, England Joseph Furness Son Single Male 12 1869 Coalminers Son Camerton, Cumberland, England John Furness Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England William Furness Grand Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England Benjamin Furness Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Camerton, Cumberland, England James Furness Granson Single Male 0 1881 - Camerton, Cumberland, England
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19 Nov 2017 20:23 |
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Is this Tesfinn (Jesfinn) on the 1871 Census??
FURNACE, JOSEPHINE mmn DOVER GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 507
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19 Nov 2017 20:08 |
Joseph Furness was born ca 1869, registered in Cockermouth, the registration district that includes Camerton
BUT his mmn is Dover according to the GRO Index
FURNESS, JOSEPH mmn DOVER Order GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 525
I can't see a marraige for aBenjamin Furness to an Elizabeth Dover, there is a marriage of a Benjamin Fpossibly to an Elizabeth Hanson in Halifax in 1871
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%) COCKCROFT Charles William Halifax 9a 838 Furness Benjamin Halifax 9a 838 Gledhill Ruth Halifax 9a 838 Scan Hanson Elizabeth Halifax 9a 838
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19 Nov 2017 19:59 |
yes that's the one
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19 Nov 2017 19:58 |
In 1861 census he is 28 and Elizabeth 25 thank you I will see if her name was Nicholson maybe I have got it wrong
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19 Nov 2017 19:56 |
Is this the one you are looking for???????????
1871 Census
Name: Elizabeth Furnace [Elizabeth Furness] Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Benjamin Furnace Gender: Female Where born: Camerton, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Flimby County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 306 Piece: 5245 Folio: 55 Page Number: 68
Benjamin Furnace 39 b.ca 1832, Workington, Cumberland Elizabeth Furnace 36 Isabella Furnace 15 Tesfinn Furnace 7 Joseph Furnace 2 Mary A Mitchell 17
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19 Nov 2017 19:51 |
Are you SURE that Elizabeth Nicholson married Benjamin Furness????
This is the only marriage showing up on Freebmd .................. and Elizabeth would have been only 5 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%) ATKINSON Hannah Whitehaven 25 131 FURNESS Benjamin Whitehaven 25 131 MILES Ann Whitehaven 25 131 NICHOLSON Elizabeth Whitehaven 25 131 NICHOLSON James Whitehaven 25 131 PROBART Sarah Whitehaven 25 131 SHERWEN Robert Whitehaven 25 131 STODDART John Whitehaven 25 131
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19 Nov 2017 19:47 |
Have you got her marriage certificate?
The name of her father could be on there, or a family member could have been a witness.
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