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The marriage cert for Phoebe to George Gibbs may give father's name if known.

Going back to Chris Ho's post re Ann's burial

"Relationship widow of
Male relative forename William
Relative surname SHAW "

?? Not seeing William

No it is not her ann was born in Brodsworths Doncaster 1811

Nyx I seem to think my mum said it was William

Carol, you say Ann was born 1811, but on the 1871 and her burial she was born 1799 or thereabouts. You really do need to buy the marriage cert.

If she was born earlier there is this one??

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marsh Gate Rowleys Yard, Doncaster, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ann Shaw Female 40 1801 Yorkshire, England
Harriet Shaw Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England
Mary Shaw Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England
Andrew Shaw Male 11 1830 Yorkshire, England
Mary Egley Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England

EDIT forget this one , still there in 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census T
Sloop Yard, Marsh Gate, Doncaster, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

William Shaw Head Married Male 57 1794 Sailor Yorkshire, England
Anne Shaw Wife Married Female 54 1797 - Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Andrew Shaw Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Sailor & Boat Hauler Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

No that one not her or william In the 1951 census as william died .by 1842

Sorry Carol don't understand?

In the 1851 census there names are misconscripted ann and Phoebe last name is down as Shane ,sorry for that,

They are transcribed correctly on Findmypast

Thank you so much for your help.

George Gibbs
England, Kent, Parish Registers
Name George Gibbs
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 09 Feb 1861
Event Place Holy Trinity, Milton-next-Gravesend, Kent, England
Gender Male
Age 21
Marital Status Single
Birth Year (Estimated) 1840
Father's Name George Gibbs
Spouse's Name Phoebe Shaw
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 19
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1842
Spouse's Father's Name William Shaw

Thankyou so much.

Looking round there was below...

(think you need to see Marriage Cert., might give an occupation for William)

Chris :)

Burial
County Kent
Place Dartford
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 2393
Burial date 29 Sep 1842
Person age 33
Burial person forename William
Burial person surname SHAW
Register note Traveller

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Death
SHAW, WILLIAM (33)
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 05 Page 61


Edits (Find My Past has Baptism image for below posted earlier)

Shaw Phebe - 1842 (May 29) England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Shepshed, Leicestershire, England
(Robert & Ann, occ. Framework Knitter)



Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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GIBBS Phoebe Ann 65 Dartford 2a 466

Could this have any relevance here?

FreeReg Baptism entry Link for reporting error in transcription Field Value
County Kent
Place (link for place information) Dartford
Church name Holy Trinity
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 416
Baptism date 11 Apr 1852
Birth date 1 Nov 1841
Person forename Phoebe
Person sex ?
Person abode Dartford
Father forename William
Father surname SHAW
Father occupation Turner
Mother forename Ann
Witness
Witness
Register note
Transcriber notes

Dea x

(oh Well Done Dea, have just come to 'switch orf' for shopping, bet that is!)

Chris :)

Thank you so much all.Much appreciated.xx

Well not seeing a Birth, perhaps wasn't registered!...

(but as I missed that Baptism, don't trust me, lol)

Chris :)

Thanks chris.I wish I knew anns last name. I noticed on anns death that she was 83 so that would make her being born in 1798 but on everything else she was born 1811

See the 1881 Census, below...(76)

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Dartford/Dartford1881.shtml

Chris :)

That's her Chris !!!! - so, now we have a new date - c 1805 ;-) :-D

Dea x